[TriEmbed] Novel approach for low power logic from Intel
Peter Soper
pete at soper.us
Mon Aug 28 19:36:46 CDT 2023
The novelty to me was the frequency being varied across a 300X range as the PS voltage was varied across a 5X range on the fly. I'd heard of very low supply voltages but not the dynamism.
Pete
Aug 28, 2023 8:32:49 PM Mike Lisanke <mikelisanke at gmail.com>:
> Good catch on date!
> I didn't understand because there's So Much Energy Harvest technology that running a chip on a solar cell (2 sq in?) seemed ridiculously easy to me.
> I didn't read much further into the article thinking there was a mistake Or something unique. I don't know what size chip can boot/work with Just RF harvest but there's many.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 8:15 PM Peter Soper via TriEmbed <triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>> Ugh. Sorry.
>>
>> Aug 28, 2023 5:23:42 PM John Wettroth <jwet at mindspring.com>:
>>
>>> Just noticed that the press release was from 2012- DOH! Oh well.
>>>
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>>> Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Novel approach for low power logic from Intel
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>>> I'm surprised that Intel is claiming this as really novel. The Claremont
>>> Architecture mentioned was being talked about as the IA in 2012. It grew out of
>>> the Atom processors that ran in this near threshold/sub threshold region. Lot
>>> of companies have used techniques like this for decades. Most digital stuff
>>> that runs at these absurd low voltages is subthreshold or near. The very low
>>> power Microchip (nanoWatt XLP) parts use these techniques. Intel's FINFET
>>> operate below .7v already. There was a startup called SuVolta that was based on
>>> these techniques- it disappeared (acquired or folded?) about five years ago.
>>> Freescale had some dynamic power stuff that played games with the "body" or
>>> substrate connection to modulate threshold voltage. It let them make parts that
>>> operate in strong inversion at high speeds with higher class A type leakage
>>> currents but could downshift to a slower, low leakage mode by manipulating the
>>> body voltage. They could do this on the fly- don't know what happened to it-
>>> good fodder for ISSC conferences of the day. Press releases are written by
>>> investor relations guys that don't have a firm handle on the technology and
>>> mainly into promotion. Ironically, the old 40 or so nm process nodes were much
>>> better in these respects. I think 7 nm might have overshot the mark.
>>>
>>> Take Care-
>>>
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>>> John M. Wettroth
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