[TriEmbed] Dash FCC info and model corrections

[Shane Trent]

Ok, now I am confused. And I see how Pete got confused! I apologize for the
extra traffic. So the AWS IoT button that just arrived yesterday has the
rev 1 hardware? Any idea why that would be? Longer shelf-life or operation
in low temperatures with the lithium battery? More robust transmission for
IoT use? Or just an issue ramping production of rev 2 to meet demand?

The tear-down of the new button estimated the life of the Dash buttons to
be 250 cycles for rev 1 and 500 for rev 2. But the official AWS IoT button
site says "The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses. When
the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or
replace the battery." Do you think this means rev 2 buttons would actually
last 2000 cycles?

https://aws.amazon.com/iot/button/

Shane

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:57 PM Shane Trent <shanedtrent at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> No, I stand corrected. The rev 2 Dash button is JK29LP! Just close enough
> that reading the tiny print on the back of the button and then on the
> screen looked similar! I look forward to seeing a tear-down of the AWS IoT
> button!
>
> Shane
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:55 PM Shane Trent <shanedtrent at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> My AWS IoT button has Model No. JK76PL on the back which is the same as
>> the Rev 2 Dash Button. So expect they have the same internals. But at $20 a
>> pop I am not ready to open this one to see.
>>
>> Shane
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM Michael Monaghan <mike at chipworks.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shane,
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly the Amazon IoT button has different hardware
>>> than the Dash button, including a "user replaceable" battery.  The firmware
>>> is a bit different as well.  Of course at $20 a pop, one has a little
>>> different expectations.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Shane Trent via TriEmbed <
>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Amazon's IoT Service claims that the Dash Button is good for 1000
>>>> presses.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed <
>>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After taking one apart from the "top down" I'm pretty sure the bottom
>>>>> plastic of a rev 2 can be cut away with no affect on the usability, but
>>>>> exposing the battery holder for easy replacements. You would do this right
>>>>> after the first battery pooped out. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Pete
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/25/2016 09:07 AM, Shane Trent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Great Dash Button tear-down with information about the rev2 design
>>>>> with Atmel chip. I seems that rev2 has a low capacity battery but should
>>>>> last twice as many button pushes (500 vs 250) because each transmit is
>>>>> shorter so it uses less power.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://mpetroff.net/2016/07/new-amazon-dash-button-teardown-jk29lp/
>>>>>
>>>>> Shane
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 9:38 PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed <
>>>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I mistakenly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    (playdoh are 29s, solidgold, gatorade, and chlorox are 76s). I
>>>>>> took one of the heavier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is backwards. My playdoh ones are model 76 and the others 29.
>>>>>> But with the move to "rev 2" it's likely random whether you get one or the
>>>>>> other, with the 76 only in the less popular buttons that haven't turned
>>>>>> over, I would guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, my search of the FCC records was messed up. The JK76PL rev 1
>>>>>> files are here
>>>>>> <https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=wU3P4tmvvtCJ8RtayC%2Fi9w%3D%3D&fcc_id=2ACBE-0610>
>>>>>> and the JK29LP rev 2 here
>>>>>> <https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=dxg92UFnj11r21%2BxCAQtiQ%3D%3D&fcc_id=2AETK-1013>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Pete
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