[TriEmbed] Protection from Dual 12V inputs

Pete Soper pete at soper.us
Fri Mar 11 21:16:45 CST 2016 

Hi Brian,

(Here's your original msg 
<http://mail.triembed.org/pipermail/triembed_triembed.org/2016-February/002402.html> 
for others to catch up on if they're interested. I should also point out 
that folks can set their mail to "digest mode" and get a single msg a 
day if this spurt of traffic gets too bad. One person unsubscribed 
yesterday.)

   As one relative beginner to another, let me ask what's between the 
level translator and your relays? You sort of imply below you might be 
expecting the level translator to deliver a ton of current despite it 
going through the 470 ohm resistor (limit with 5v source is about 10ma). 
It's hard to picture the level translator operating even the most puny 
relay.
   But Robert's circuit is predicated on the MOSFET gate needing very 
little current (i.e. with 5v out of the level translator about 10ma). 
The other transistor has to be able to yank the gate on the other side 
of one of these resistors to ground, so making them too small defeats 
the either/or aspect.
   But it really needs resistors in the path from each level translator 
to the transistor base Rob accidently connected it directly to. Without 
those it's a survival duel between too high current through the level 
translator or the transistor base to emitter path and one or both parts 
may be destroyed instantly or at some random, inconvenient time. The 
base resistors could be a few k ohms and even the crummiest transistors 
would sink the 10ma to prevent the MOSFET connected to its collector 
from switching on (the 470 ohm resistor is kind of like a bus pullup in 
this situation).
   Now that we're up to two transistors and four resistors, a single 
74LV04 (Mouser part 771-LV04N112) seems attractive.  One of it's 
inverters could feed a complement of a single MCP23008 line to one 
relay(driver?) and the original signal would drive the other one.  But 
this LV chip is wimpy. For more drive the 74AHC04 would work as below. 
Or you could use the LV04 in between the MCP and the level shifter (i.e. 
sticking with something you know is working now).

-Pete

On 03/11/2016 02:24 PM, Grawburg via TriEmbed wrote:
> I've tried this and it doesn't work.  I did change the resistors to 
> 220 just to see if that made a difference.
> My actual set-up does not use MOSFETs as I originally asked about but 
> instead uses two DPDT relays.
> The input voltage goes through a level shifter since I determined that 
> the 3V3 through the resistor was too close to
> the 2V5 that produces an unknown state in the relay modules. So the 
> output from the shifter is 5V which does work fine. I still need to
> be able to make sure a bad code doesn't allow both relays to activate.
>
>
> Brian Grawburg
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: "Robert Gasiorowski" <rgresume at gmail.com>
>     To: "Grawburg" <grawburg at myglnc.com>
>     Cc: "Triangle Embedded Devices" <TriEmbed at triembed.org>
>     Date: 02/24/16 05:34 PM
>     Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Protection from Dual 12V inputs
>
>     Ooops, forgot to add base resistors.
>
>     On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Robert Gasiorowski
>     <rgresume at gmail.com <mailto:rgresume at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         How about something simple like this:
>
>         Inline image 1
>
>
>
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