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    <p>I think I may be better off making cardboard models  or put
      energy into a white board for the short term.  A daughter board
      for a 100 pin device that needs to solder in place with .1"
      headers involves geometry/mechanical skills where my execution
      speed is off by orders of magnitude.<br>
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    <p>-Pete<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/21 14:40, Pete Soper via
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      <p>Don't need help, thanks. The v0.01 board will be what it will
        be. Was flirting with dropping out of the fun zone but
        recovered. :-)</p>
      <p>-Pete<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/21 13:47, Pete Soper via
        TriEmbed wrote:<br>
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        <p>Thanks again, Josh. I appreciate it. Got to go with the
          Adafruit huzzah lib 'cause of time. Actually, I'm in trouble
          and need somebody(s)  good with Eagle to swing by and help if
          possible. I was expecting OSH Park to say I could get it to
          them tomorrow. Another mistake. <br>
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        <p>-Pete</p>
        <p>919 270 9433</p>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/21 13:39, Josh Wyatt
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Negative on the eagle, I apologize.
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            <div>But I found these: </div>
            <div><a
                href="https://grabcad.com/library/mh-et-esp32-d1-mini-eagle-1"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://grabcad.com/library/mh-et-esp32-d1-mini-eagle-1</a></div>
            <div><a
                href="https://easyeda.com/search?wd=esp+wemos&indextype=components"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://easyeda.com/search?wd=esp+wemos&indextype=components</a></div>
            <div><br>
              <div>Thanks,<br>
                Josh</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at
              1:30 PM Pete Soper <<a href="mailto:pete@soper.us"
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              wrote:<br>
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                <p>Sorry for the confusion. Do you have an Eagle lib for
                  this? Have to upload to OSH Park by 6pm.</p>
                <p>THANKS!</p>
                <p>Pete<br>
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                <div>On 11/15/21 13:21, Josh Wyatt wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">The link I shared was for ESP32 boards.
                    What I was trying to convey (and maybe was
                    miscommunicated, yay email!) is that these linked
                    ESP32 boards seem to follow a form factor and
                    convention of prior/historical ESP8266 boards, and
                    therefore bring some additional consistency. I
                    attached a screenshot of the page that loads for me,
                    from that Amazon link.
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                    <div>Thanks,</div>
                    <div>Josh</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 15,
                      2021 at 1:16 PM Peter Soper <<a
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                      <div> <span style="font-family:monospace">Thanks
                          very much, Josh. Agree with point about pin
                          conflicts. But did i go to the wrong page? I
                          want to use an esp32 not 8266. This is for the
                          "0.01" versuon of the community project board.</span>
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                          <p>Nov 15, 2021 1:11:29 PM Josh Wyatt <<a
                              href="mailto:dragojdw@gmail.com"
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                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dragojdw@gmail.com</a>>:</p>
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                            <div dir="ltr"> This is sort of an indirect
                              response to your question, but my
                              experience is that the more complex and
                              "featured" the dev board, the less
                              consistent. For example, for boards with
                              onboard 18650 battery holders and Liion
                              charger, OLED display, and even onboard
                              LEDs will be on different I/O ports. So my
                              guidance would be to choose the simplest
                              boards available, which is sort of
                              antithetical to the "dev board" concept.
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                              <div> I've had pretty good luck with
                                consistency on the "wemos esp8266 clone"
                                boards, presumably because the Wemos D1
                                mini became very established with the
                                8266; search on amazon for "esp32 d1
                                mini." Here's a link: <a
href="https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Internet-Development-Functional-Ardu-ino/dp/B08MFCC4SR/?th=1"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Internet-Development-Functional-Ardu-ino/dp/B08MFCC4SR/?th=1</a> 
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                              <div> You mentioned soldering footprint,
                                and that one's not super friendly; but
                                it should be pretty consistent since the
                                design tries to adhere to the original
                                ESP8266 Wemos D1 Mini form factor. </div>
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                              <div> You mentioned Amazon specifically,
                                so I assume you're prototyping? </div>
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                              <div> Thanks, </div>
                              <div> Josh </div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"> On Mon,
                                Nov 15, 2021 at 11:38 AM Peter Soper via
                                TriEmbed <<a
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                                    style="font-family:monospace">What
                                    esp32 dev board soldering footprint
                                    should be used on a board combining
                                    this with other stuff where it has
                                    to be 1) obtainable reliably 2)
                                    offer wifi and BT and 3) be cheap? I
                                    see many cheap on amazon. Are their
                                    pinouts de facto standard? And
                                    finally, anybody got an Eagle lib
                                    for this board? Or could you make
                                    and send me an .lbr for it?</span> <br>
                                  <span style="font-family:monospace">Thanks
                                    in advance.</span> <br>
                                  <span style="font-family:monospace">Pete</span>
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