<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px">Pete, </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px">As you know, I am a big fan of MacroFab. I have used them about a dozen times from quantities of ~5 to 100. They have an excellent automated ordering process and they give a number of options to play fulfillment time against volume. They can even do product assembly and test.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px">Chip</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px"><br></div> <br> <div class="gmail_signature"><div>____________________________________</div>Chip McClelland<div><a href="mailto:chip@mcclellands.org">chip@mcclellands.org</a></div><div>919-624-5562</div></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">On August 21, 2020 at 12:14:01 PM, <a href="mailto:triembed-request@triembed.org">triembed-request@triembed.org</a> (<a href="mailto:triembed-request@triembed.org">triembed-request@triembed.org</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>Send TriEmbed mailing list submissions to
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<br> 1. Circuithub, Macrofab & other quick turn assemblers (Pete Soper)
<br> 2. off topic: DNS smarts in web browsers (Pete Soper)
<br> 3. Re: Circuithub, Macrofab & other quick turn assemblers
<br> (Kevin Schilf)
<br> 4. Re: Circuithub, Macrofab & other quick turn assemblers
<br> (Pete Soper)
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<br>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:48:24 -0400
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<br>Subject: [TriEmbed] Circuithub, Macrofab & other quick turn assemblers
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<br>I'm shopping for a supplier to assemble smalll quantities of PCBs (eg Q3-10 of 21 kinds of board in one case). The two in the subject line are on my list but I wonder if anybody can add to it? I need something akin to OSH Park/OSH Stencils: zero human comms if I haven't screwed something up or gotten a surprise and ideally a week to three at most from upload to assembled boards in hand. If/when the project progresses there will be special requirements and that's when I would approach Better Boards or the like, so shops like that are not what I'm looking for now.Thanks,Pete
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<br>For those interested in DNS smarts in web browsers this may be of
<br>interest:
<br><a href="https://blog.apnic.net/2020/08/21/chromiums-impact-on-root-dns-traffic/">https://blog.apnic.net/2020/08/21/chromiums-impact-on-root-dns-traffic/</a>
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<br>One pleasant surprise I got was learning that Microsoft Edge is built on
<br>OSS Chromium. Together with Visual Basic Code having an MIT license I
<br>might some day change my attitude toward this corporation. Their
<br>engineers are of course fantastic (interacted with them a bit when MS
<br>and Sun couldn't play nice with Java), but maybe the corporation is
<br>changing it's stripes? Anyway,? onward.
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<br>-Pete
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<br>From: Kevin Schilf <<a href="mailto:kschilf@yahoo.com">kschilf@yahoo.com</a>>
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<br>Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Circuithub, Macrofab & other quick turn
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<br> Hi Pete,
<br>Please share any vendors that are cost effective at 3-10 units.? I am also interested in any feedback the group has on toaster oven conversions or inexpensive turnkey reflow ovens (< $500).? It would be handy to have an immediate prototype capability in-house.
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<br>I can recommend C-Tron (Franklin) and GRT (Raleigh) for SMT assembly but the quantities involved were 100's at a time?? In both cases, the service was cost effective and high quality.? I don't know if this would be cost effective at such small volumes.? Volume is King.? :-)
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<br>Thanks,Kevin
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<br> On Friday, August 21, 2020, 8:48:32 AM EDT, Pete Soper via TriEmbed <<a href="mailto:triembed@triembed.org">triembed@triembed.org</a>> wrote:
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<br> I'm shopping for a supplier to assemble smalll quantities of PCBs (eg Q3-10 of 21 kinds of board in one case). The two in the subject line are on my list but I wonder if anybody can add to it? I need something akin to OSH Park/OSH Stencils: zero human comms if I haven't screwed something up or gotten a surprise and ideally a week to three at most from upload to assembled boards in hand. If/when the project progresses there will be special requirements and that's when I would approach Better Boards or the like, so shops like that are not what I'm looking for now.
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<br>Thanks very much, Kevin. I'll share something about my reflow setup that
<br>I built for roughly $300 (but it involved a lucky find of a good hood
<br>from some RTP lab, a wood stove flu and a really good radial fan I just
<br>happened to have). I'm still using the original Controleo
<br><<a href="https://www.whizoo.com/">https://www.whizoo.com/</a>> board (and my oven looks almost exactly like
<br>the one on their web site: love that race car IR reflective stuff!).
<br>After poo-pooing the drawbacks of the original version my project to
<br>make a much better controller has been sitting unfinished for a very,
<br>very long time. That tells you how satisfied I am, although if you need
<br>to change profiles in a hurry we must hope their firmware is much
<br>smarter these days. But I'm confident their current product is really
<br>good. The industry experience they brought into their biz was solid:
<br>they were not only enthusiasts (the archaic term that comes to mind is
<br>"righteous dudes"). More on my setup when I have some time.
<br>
<br>On a related note, I just posted something to do with absorbed moisture
<br>in ICs <<a href="http://triembed.org/blog/keeping-your-powderhhhhhh-ics-dry/">http://triembed.org/blog/keeping-your-powderhhhhhh-ics-dry/</a>>on
<br>the TriEmbed web site.
<br>
<br>/*TriEmbed folks that have been "vetted" are welcome to get logins on
<br>the site and add their own content. It's a vanilla Wordpress environment
<br>and there is a "role" set up to provide different levels of privilege,
<br>etc.? One non-negotiable requirement is a password that can outlast an
<br>epoch of breakin attempts. Wordpress sites are subjected to nearly
<br>continuous attacks. The site is what we make it to be. I am
<br>uncomfortable having disproportionately created content for seven years
<br>and would very much like to become a bit player in the stats in the
<br>future, and not just because my day job and other circumstances are
<br>"blotting out the sun". *//*("Vetting" is just to establish we know who
<br>you are as part of the TriEmbed community, typically via meeting
<br>attendance, but sometimes email correspondence, phone calls, etc)
<br>*/
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<br>Just for instance, somebody could add a posting about the monthly
<br>virtual meetings *iff* the Jitsi server is up to it. If it can't handle
<br>more than the current number of attendees then it would be a bad idea
<br>IMO. But there are various walled gardens wafting perfumed translations
<br>of "free" from all directions...
<br>
<br>-Pete
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<br>On 8/21/20 11:22 AM, Kevin Schilf wrote:
<br>> Hi Pete,
<br>>
<br>> Please share any vendors that are cost effective at 3-10 units.? I am
<br>> also interested in any feedback the group has on toaster oven
<br>> conversions or inexpensive turnkey reflow ovens (< $500).? It would be
<br>> handy to have an immediate prototype capability in-house.
<br>>
<br>> I can recommend C-Tron (Franklin) and GRT (Raleigh) for SMT assembly
<br>> but the quantities involved were 100's at a time?? In both cases, the
<br>> service was cost effective and high quality.? I don't know if this
<br>> would be cost effective at such small volumes.? Volume is King.? :-)
<br>>
<br>> Thanks,
<br>> Kevin
<br>>
<br>> On Friday, August 21, 2020, 8:48:32 AM EDT, Pete Soper via TriEmbed
<br>> <<a href="mailto:triembed@triembed.org">triembed@triembed.org</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> I'm shopping for a supplier to assemble smalll quantities of PCBs (eg
<br>> Q3-10 of 21 kinds of board in one case). The two in the subject line
<br>> are on my list but I wonder if anybody can add to it? I need something
<br>> akin to OSH Park/OSH Stencils: zero human comms if I haven't screwed
<br>> something up or gotten a surprise and ideally a week to three at most
<br>> from upload to assembled boards in hand. If/when the project
<br>> progresses there will be special requirements and that's when I would
<br>> approach Better Boards or the like, so shops like that are not what
<br>> I'm looking for now.
<br>>
<br>> Thanks,
<br>> Pete
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