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Hi John,<br>
I'm still digesting and cogitating about this posting of yours.
I've been trying to catch up on psychology and neuroscience for the
past year or two, mostly for personal reasons, and am struck by the
fact that if you take Eagleman's book <i>Incognito</i> and
Kahneman's book <i>Thinking Fast and Slow</i> and boil them down
it's possible to get a perspective about just how little magic is
left in the way people actually behave (vs the way we think we
behave). That's not to say artificial abstract reasoning is around
the corner or to minimize what a vast gap there is between any
existing (i.e. domain-specific) AI and a person. Just saying the
nature of the lego blocks and simple collections of blocks seems to
be coming into focus.<br>
And here's another submission for my guess that AI is sneaking
up on us in plain sight, albeit with more and more intellectual debt
being accrued:<br>
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href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/2214731-robot-pilot-that-can-grab-the-flight-controls-gets-its-plane-licence/">https://www.newscientist.com/article/2214731-robot-pilot-that-can-grab-the-flight-controls-gets-its-plane-licence/</a><br>
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-Pete<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/29/19 11:08 AM, John Vaughters via
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Machine Learning, I call weighted big data with Artificial
Stupidity. Yes the machine is learning, NO it is not
intelligent. Quite the opposite. In fact, it reminds me of the
old Sesame Street game, One of these does not belong with the
other. Smart comparisons based on big data inputs with massive
processing. The current Machine Learning will be useful as a
tool, similar to a ratchet wrench is to a car. It will help us
for specific tasks, but not all tasks. Ever try to use a
ratchet wrench as a hammer, right, well it does work, but can
give very bad results. That is experience talking :) </div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I've seen at least two
articles from people in the industry stating we are headed in
the wrong direction on AI. One software and one hardware. The
software person used the same term I always use, Artificial
Stupidity. He felt that we had to re-think the entire
approach, but did not offer one. The point being he just flat
out believed smart weighted comparisons are not the answer. A
tool yes, but it will not lead to intelligence. The Hardware
guy was somehow connected to Intel and believed the heavy
processing was not the answer and instead of high electrical
power with high processing power is not the solution. They
were looking at low power processing with fast small
calculations in massive parallel. Think video card cores.
These articles were pie in the sky thoughts, so no idea if
they went anywhere. All this tells me is what I have been
saying for a long time, we have no clue what intelligence is
or how to create it. What we keep doing is taking shots in the
dark and extracting a little light to take new aim with
another shot. Each shot provides great amazing tools. Object
Oriented Programming came from one of those shots. I don't
know about you, but that was a pretty amazing concept that
lead to incredible advances in usable software. More tools are
coming that will blow our minds, but it still will not be
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Machine Learning is so
complex and very unreliable, because when it fails, it can be
quite spectacular. The worse part is the creators have no idea
why it failed, because they cannot evaluate the neural
network. This is a real Frankenstein. Enough knowledge to
build it but not able to understand or control it. The phase
we are in right now is to build software to help evaluate what
the neural nets are doing and it is a massive task. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I have always criticized Elon
Musk for being afraid of AI, but I have backed down on him a
bit. Because, if we allow some of this technology to run our
world, the fear is not that it will take over, but it will
fail and fail big. I have no idea why Elon Musk is afraid of
AI, but I do now see a very real issue where people think
their software is great and apply it in situations that can
cause massive problems. For instance, imagine AI implemented
in an electric grid. SCARY! Ummmm Weapons decisions. YIKES!
Sadly, I have found out both of these are being looked at,
hence my fear level has raised, but not due to Sky Net
domination, Due to Human Stupidity allowing Artificial
Stupidity to be misused. </div>
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a good day</div>
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> Favorite pick-up line: You look like a thing and I
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-B
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