<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>My professional guess is that the no-name parts are the rejects or out-of-spec parts from the primary brands' production lines. So that wouldn't make them "knockoffs" so much as "rejects". There is no way to tell if you are getting a reject part because it has probably gone through the production labeling and packaging process anyway.<br><br></div>Where I used to work, they had to test every inbound part, and if not practical (tape reel, etc) test every soldered board to find the "radical" parts before assembly. This makes for very inefficient production testing and drives the COGS up.<br><br></div>Just for information, you can expect about 4-5% defect rate from a good supply of parts. When you start seeing 25-50% defects you know you've been ripped off.<br><br></div>- sgh<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Scott Hall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scottghall1@gmail.com" target="_blank">scottghall1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">🤔<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Jeffrey Crews <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cruzetti@gmail.com" target="_blank">cruzetti@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">So where are all the good, non-knockoff components manufactured?</div><div class="m_5287891831476321626HOEnZb"><div class="m_5287891831476321626h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Mauricio Tavares via TriEmbed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:triembed@triembed.org" target="_blank">triembed@triembed.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">My favourite picture is the fake capacitor.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640h5">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Scott Hall via TriEmbed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:triembed@triembed.org" target="_blank">triembed@triembed.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640h5"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><img class="m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-alignleft m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-size-thumbnail m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-wp-image-19" title="Fake_capacitor" src="http://tric.c0.pl/rozpierdol/2010/09/fake_capacitor-150x150.jpg" alt="" height="150" width="150">Cheap electrolytic capacitor..<br><br></div><img class="m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-alignleft m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-size-thumbnail m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-wp-image-104" title="Atmega16_fail" alt="" src="http://tric.c0.pl/rozpierdol/2010/10/atmega16_fail-150x150.jpg" height="150" width="150">ATMEGA1288 from Arduino Mega clone...<br><br></div><img src="http://tric.c0.pl/rozpierdol/2010/10/melted_fuse-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="" class="m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-alignleft m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-size-thumbnail m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-wp-image-113" height="150" width="150">A really slow-blow fuse...<br><br></div><img alt="" src="http://tric.c0.pl/rozpierdol/2010/09/TDA7294_FAIL-150x150.jpg" title="TDA7294_FAIL" class="m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-alignleft m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-size-thumbnail m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail-wp-image-8" height="150" width="150">Battery regulator<span class="m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div><div><div><br>-- <br><div class="m_5287891831476321626m_3314961171394993640m_-258144985042173566m_-8818045468796004731gmail_signature">Scott G. Hall<br>Raleigh, NC, USA<br><a href="mailto:scottghall1@gmail.com" target="_blank">scottghall1@gmail.com</a></div>
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