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    On 10/15/2016 01:51 PM, Robert Gasiorowski wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">1% resistors are between $0.005 to $0.01, 0.1% are
        10x-25x more. </div>
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    In your dreams. Look up the price of, for example, 1210 size 1/2
    watt resistors with values of 11 through 19 ohms. You'll find them
    slightly higher cost. Like a few hundred times higher.<br>
    <br>
    You didn't read what I wrote. I said that because the required
    values are NOT E96 they are much more expensive. <br>
    <br>
    Feel free to use octopart, but results for that search engine were
    less than pitiful when I tried it just now. Here's what Digikey
    offers for the 11-19 ohm values. Notice only a subset are available,
    and for a single package size, a smaller subset.<br>
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    Mouser's offerings are not as good. <br>
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    Notice the few values Digikey and Mouser offer are automotive. I
    guess something drives those guys to avoid standard E96.<br>
    <br>
    Again, I'm asking you *where* one would find these magically
    inexpensive resistors in 1210 size with the 63 values required?<br>
    <br>
    Instead of wondering if it would take me an hour or more to "design"
    a copy of a completely regular PCB like this, I'll point out that it
    only changes one of the product terms: the other one is still
    assumed to be zero.<br>
    <br>
    -Pete<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">You don't need E96, those decades use 1R, 10R,
        100R, 1K, 10K, 100K, and 1M values only (each *10)
        <div>I can design board like that in less than an hour, just
          need to know dimensions.</div>
        <div>You can use through hole or SMD and I would not do them
          myself, I would pay fab house to solder them, $0.04 per pad TH
          and $0.03 per SMD.</div>
        <div>Soldering headers would add $5.60 (without discount,) but
          anyone could solder them at home.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:13 PM, <a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pete@soper.us">pete@soper.us</a>
          <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:pete@soper.us" target="_blank">pete@soper.us</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Where are the 1% 1/2 watt resistors with
                the required values for a few cents each? In my
                experience stepping away from E96 values gets pricey,
                assuming you can find a source at all. Then there's the
                notion of the time to design the board, get it and a
                stencil made, paste and pick and place the parts and
                solder it, then add the barrier strip. So that's $0/hr
                for labor and magical sources for parts. <span
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                      <div dir="ltr">Pete</div>
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                    From: "Robert Gasiorowski" <<a
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                      href="mailto:rgresume@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgresume@gmail.com</a>><br>
                    To: "Pete Soper" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:pete@soper.us" target="_blank">pete@soper.us</a>><br>
                    Cc: "Triangle Embedded Computing Discussion" <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:TriEmbed@triembed.org"
                      target="_blank">TriEmbed@triembed.org</a>><br>
                    Subject: [TriEmbed] bad news about decade resistor
                    boards<br>
                    Date: Sat, Oct 15, 2016 9:31 AM</div>
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                <div dir="ltr">It would probably cost less if you made
                  them yourself, and that's including assembly!
                  <div>You could make them custom size, so that they fit
                    the box of your choice.<br>
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                  <div>You could also use higher precision resistors
                    (0.1% or better) for 1k, 10k, and 100k, to make your
                    decade box even better.</div>
                  <div>High precision resistors are expensive, but in
                    bulk might not be that bad.</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 8:55
                    AM, Pete Soper via TriEmbed <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:triembed@triembed.org"
                        target="_blank">triembed@triembed.org</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just
                      a few folks expressed interest in the decade board
                      a while back. I thought it might be more
                      interesting mounted on a laser-cut acrylic base
                      and I wasted some time exploring these and other
                      cute accessories. In the meantime the price was
                      jacked up to $14 +$3 shipping each. I searched
                      around and couldn't find the quantity five deal
                      Paul pointed us too either. I was going to just
                      get a bunch on spec and coordinate with Jeff to
                      offer them in return for Splatspace donations. But
                      at this price they're no longer interesting.
                      Here's the item in question:<br>
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                      -Pete<br>
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