<div dir="ltr">I agree with Rodney, in no way is the use of Linux small compared to windows in either the professional development and DIY communities. If you factor in the normal user and office workers then yes Linux has a very small footprint, but professional developers and hobbyists this is no longer the case. Just look at all the Raspberry Pis that have been sold in the last two or so years.<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Rodney Radford <a href="mailto:ncgadgetry@gmail.com">ncgadgetry@gmail.com</a> [trianglerobotics] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trianglerobotics@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">trianglerobotics@yahoogroups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p></p><div dir="ltr">Fred,<div><br></div><div>I would agree with you that the money from Arduino is just a small portion of what Atmel makes off it's products, but remember that most future engineers start first as a hobbiest. That is why so many companies give student discounts or freebies, to get them to like their products before they turn into the engineers that eventually make the products that will bring in the money.</div><div><br></div><div>As for Microsoft being the predominant OS, that is debatable now. Take a look at the chart on this page (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems</a>) that shows that Windows is trailing Android, and Android is Linux under the covers. While I suspect you were referring to desktop interfaces, it was only a few years ago that we would not have imagined that Linux would be so predominant in the handheld space - give Linux time, it is still growing. </div><div><br></div><div>But even if the comment is true on the desktop, remember we are looking at the segment of the market that is tinkering in electronics - and that segment does lean more toward Linux than the traditional segment.</div><div><br></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Fred Ebeling <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:FEbeling@ecpdesigns.com" target="_blank">FEbeling@ecpdesigns.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid">
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<div>I am always interested in others ideas on the “why and what fors” that
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<div>do things. I would have to guess if I was in marketing that Arduino
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<div>not a big percentage of ATMELs bottom line. They would more like to
have companies</div>
<div>that purchase 100K units a year, or a car company that purchases 10
million.</div>
<div>These companies are using the latest software, not the Arduino
environment.</div>
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UP!! you are in a very small</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="triembed@triembed.org" href="mailto:triembed@triembed.org" target="_blank">Rodney Radford via TriEmbed</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2015 2:44 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="bill@arrowsreach.com" href="mailto:bill@arrowsreach.com" target="_blank">Bill Farrow</a> </div>
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<div dir="ltr">I do agree this is a marketing ploy by Atmel, and they are a bit
late to the party. I was using Atmel products long before Arduino, but I
have not fired up the Atmel IDE in ages. I personally hate the Arduino
IDE, which is the only positive thing about Atmel getting back in, but I have
been happy with a simple text editor and make files.
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<div>And yes, the MS Windows only is a bad decision for many of the target
audience they are hoping to hit.</div></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I don't think Atmel will succeed. They are trying to
win back the hobbiest and educational market that is exploding away from them
out of their control. The key concepts of Arduino was Open Source and code
simplicity. Bringing out a proprietary IDE and importing your simple sketches
into a more complex language and project format is probably not going to
excite to many people.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Plus, it is MS Windows only :-( So no one in my
household is able to use it.</div><span><font color="#888888">
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