<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="" class=""><span style="" class=""><shakes fist yet again at yahoo></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br style="" class=""><span style="" class=""></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">At the same time, they do a better job than I realized in keeping spam out. You wouldn't believe how many Nigerian Princes and will executors for deceased Wall Street bankers have selected anibit.com as their benefactor.
</span><br style="" class=""><span style="" class="">(Hopefully the very mention of those words doesn't send yahoo into another fit)</span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span style="" class=""></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class=""><br></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">--Jon</div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida
Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br style="" class=""><span style="" class=""></span></div><div style="" class=""><br style="" class=""></div> <div class="" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div class="" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="" class="" dir="ltr"> <hr style="" class="" size="1"> <font style="" class="" face="Arial" size="2"> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Pete Soper <pete@soper.us><br style="" class=""> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Jon Wolfe <jonjwolfe@yahoo.com> <br style="" class=""><b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Triangle Embedded Computing Discussion
<TriEmbed@triembed.org> <br style="" class=""> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:36 PM<br style="" class=""> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> yahoo.com "not same domain" security policy sabotaged delivery of list email to yahoo.com addresses<br style="" class=""> </font> </div> <div style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><div style="" class="" id="yiv8760527365"><div style="" class="">
List subscribers that use yahoo.com (or, for example, hotmail.com
that forwards to yahoo.com) for their email should probably read
this and the rest of you are encouraged to skip it as noise.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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Late this afternoon John Vaughters posted a reply (with Yahoo mail)
to Martin Brooke's remark about "luck". (You Yahooers will have to
consult the email archive msgs with subject "Another College Drop
out Billionaire Made from his garage".) It appears that when the
email list server tried to send this msg to other list subscribers
using yahoo.com it triggered the new, overly clever security policy
that Yahoo put in place to fight spam. Unfortunately, in addition to
fighting spam, it hoses the operation of email lists. <br style="" class="" clear="none">
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As the list admin, here's part of what I got corresponding to the
failure to deliver for your particular case, Jon:<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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(blah blah)<br style="" class="" clear="none">
<pre style="" class=""> <a style="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" ymailto="mailto:carver_dude@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:carver_dude@hotmail.com">carver_dude (at) hotmail.com</a>
SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
host mx4.hotmail.com [65.55.33.119]: 550 5.7.0 (COL0-MC5-F31) Unfortunately, messages from (50.28.8.76) on behalf of (yahoo.com) could not be delivered due to domain owner policy restrictions.
<a style="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" ymailto="mailto:jonjwolfe@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jonjwolfe@yahoo.com">jonjwolfe (at) yahoo.com</a>
SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
host mta7.am0.Yahoodns.net [66.196.118.37]: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons. See <a style="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" target="_blank" href="http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html">http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html</a></pre>
(much more blah blah)<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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<i style="" class="">All direct and indirect yahoo.com users: this episode caused the
list server to try over and over again to deliver John's msg until
the "bounce" limit was exceeded, at which point your subscription
delivery was disabled (i.e. "nomail" got set with a [A] notation
[A for administrator/list robot]). <b style="" class="">BUT</b> I just went into
the admin interface and undid that. So all should be well and you
should all get future list mail OK until this happens again. Note
that when you get this "weird bounce msg" you can simply visit
your subscription page and uncheck the "nomail" box to fix this
for yourself. The link to the email info page that goes to your
subscription details is at the bottom of every list msg, but
you'll need the login info provided by the monthly reminder msg.</i><br style="" class="" clear="none">
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This is the first time this has happened, so as you can see "most"
of the time postings from Yahoo users are going through fine.
Hopefully we'll figure out the pattern.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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-Pete<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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<div style="" class="" id="yiv8760527365yqt45265"><div style="" class="">On 05/13/2014 06:28 PM, Jon Wolfe
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I got a wierd "excessive bounces" notification from the triembed
server.
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<div style="" class="">Maybe I'll have to create an Anibit email account to use for
stuff like this.</div>
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