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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have also used Fritzing. When I was designing my first Arduino shield (single layer PC board that I etched myself), I started by downloading Eagle. Of course, I did not read the manual or watch any tutorials. I was incredibly frustrated at the steep learning curve. I would draw connections between parts in the schematic capture mode only to find that Eagle did not actually make a connection between the wire I was drawing and the pin on the part. So, I downloaded Fritzing and within a couple of hours, I had my board designed. I went back to Eagle when I started using OSH Park to avoid having to mess with Gerber files.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At that point, I watched some tutorials on the web about Eagle and figured out what I was doing wrong with my connections (don’t use the “wire” tool, use the “net” tool).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>---> Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> TriEmbed [mailto:triembed-bounces@triembed.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frederick Farzanegan<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jon Wolfe<br><b>Cc:</b> triembed@triembed.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TriEmbed] Fritzing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I love Fritzing- I keep my arduino projects in it- exactly for breadboarding, as I keep tearing apart and building new projects with the same set of hardware. I suppose I could buy a bunch more hardware... hmmm.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Jon Wolfe <<a href="mailto:jonjwolfe@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jonjwolfe@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Thanks, Pete, for the fascinating talk! <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Fritzing was brought up this evening. I'll agree, I wouldn't want to use it for PCB layout. I do have a use for it, however: to pre-plan complex breadboard or protoboard/perfboard layouts. I learned the hard way that while Fritzing might be rather limited for some things, but it is a lot more efficient than repeatedly ripping apart a breadboard circuit because you didn't plan the layout well enough.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Also, on a separate note, you can use Eagle parts libraries in KiCad, but the process is a little painful (basically you have to run an exporter/converter script in Eagle).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>This page has a little on that, toward the bottom:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Kicad/FAQ" target="_blank">http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Kicad/FAQ</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Triangle, NC Embedded Computing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:TriEmbed@triembed.org">TriEmbed@triembed.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org" target="_blank">http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org</a><br>TriEmbed web site: <a href="http://TriEmbed.org" target="_blank">http://TriEmbed.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>