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I switched the list to regular (unmoderated) mode, but there will
still be moderation for these situations:<br>
1) Subscription. New folks will get an email that must be acted
on to confirm the person intended to subscribe, then the
subscription will wait for approval by a list moderator. <br>
2) An un-subscribed person who tries to send a msg will have to
wait for moderation. If it's somebody totally cool like Don
Lancaster, I suggest we allow the msg and consider using the feature
that allows that person to post from that point on. The more likely
scenario is where somebody we know is obviously using their "other"
email address. But for the majority of cases the person trying to
post a msg will get a simple reply saying they have to subscribe.)<br>
3) A too-large msg. We'll deal with these on a case by case
basis, but the days of three lines of new content and 3000 lines of
copied text are over. But hopefully the archive interface will prove
to make the "oh, but I want every single thing in the latest email"
desire less urgent. (See link below, which by the way is at the end
of every msg sent to the list, for a pointer to the archives.)<br>
<br>
There are children on this list and we'll be making a best effort to
avoid unpleasant content while trying to avoid the equally
unpleasant "moderate every message" setting. But the volume of this
list is low enough that I don't think we have to sweat this too much
no matter which way it goes.<br>
<br>
Everybody that had "digest" set has that in the new list now, but
there is no corresponding "abridged" mode. The few people that had
"nomail" set have had this reset, because for reasons I still don't
completely understand this was the default for newly subscribed
folks on the old group, and I decided to err on the side of "folks
can turn it off one more time and lurk on the archives, vs wondering
why they get no mail."<br>
<br>
I put a notice into the old Google Group info page pointing to the <a
href="http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org">TriEmbed
list info page</a> (which folks should probably bookmark), and
this will appear as a footer to any messages posted, but otherwise
the group is as it was. Suggestions about how to close down the
group, how fast, etc would be appreciated. Note the email archive
hasn't been extracted yet (see below).<br>
<br>
I'm losing track, but I want to remind folks that they will get a
reminder from the list once a month about their subscription,
including a password reminder. IMO this is can be a wonderful
feature if you haven't wrestled the password problem to the ground
yet. :-) But you can disable the reminders if you want to.<br>
<br>
My plan was to arrange for there to be a temporary web page at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://TriEmbed.org">http://TriEmbed.org</a>, and actually there is one, but a technical
glitch is preventing ftp access to that page. (Again, I'm not able
to host more than a few kb of web content, and most especially not
anything clever involving server-side magic, etc). I have a ticket
in about this and hope to have it fixed shortly. In the meantime,
if Shannon and/or Ron would like to create a .html file I can copy
that in place. Something modeled after the current Google Group info
page would be a good start, IMO.<br>
<br>
I've also asked for specifics for enabling others to renew the
domain registration in case I fall off the planet. Hopefully it just
comes down to getting a legal document to the ISP and some mechanism
for expanding the renewal reminders. And I'll have a semi-automatic
backup scheme set up pretty soon so config, subscriber lists, and
archives can't easily get lost.<br>
<br>
Speaking of archives, it appears to be non-trivial to get the email
out of a Google Group archive or I would have this set up already.
By non-triviall I mean requiring a custom/goofus technical solution
(e.g. *shudder*, screen scraping). Or at least that was my
conclusion after searching for what I thought would be a trivial
cookbook. If/when the existing mail can be pulled off I'm confident
it can be properly formatted and insinuated into the new list's
archive. Anybody with expertise in this area could be mighty
helpful.<br>
<br>
OK, over and out for now.<br>
<br>
-Pete<br>
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