From petesoper at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 09:47:15 2025
From: petesoper at gmail.com (Pete Soper)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 10:47:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriEmbed] Sweet Esp32 project with full details
Message-ID: <65f3943f-4a7e-4aac-b08e-402aa5b38748@gmail.com>

https://uurebertwagner.com/posts/splashflag-building-an-iot-swimming-notification-device-from-scratch/[https://bertwagner.com/posts/splashflag-building-an-iot-swimming-notification-device-from-scratch/]

IMO the architecture is terrific, and the author has covered hard topics like automatic firmware updates. We could perhaps organize a group project to replicate this with tweaks for each person's target app?
Pete
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From pete at soper.us  Wed Oct  1 09:53:52 2025
From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 10:53:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriEmbed] Esp proj hacker news link
Message-ID: <26cf0ca6-7aa8-4ec2-bf79-56ae83f39af7@soper.us>

Forgot to include this. As usual with the HN web interface, clicking on the top link goes to same place as with my previous post while the rest is HN community comments that will be added to overtime.
Pete

Building an IoT Notification Device from Scratch | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45437027
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From carrick.don at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 10:51:21 2025
From: carrick.don at gmail.com (Don Carrick)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 11:51:21 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Update
In-Reply-To: <598d2f49-12d7-419c-8c98-60c516ea6b2d@soper.us>
References: <4ac17e5c-3fb0-4b7f-98fa-b73f579c9d37@soper.us>
 <4209e946-3049-4896-962e-c8e31a68e313@soper.us>
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Message-ID: 
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I'm really sorry you're going through such an ordeal, Pete.  I hope it
helps in your recovery to know that many people are pulling for you.

Don Carrick
919-217-6948  Text and mobile calls


On Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 10:52 AM Pete Soper via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> Thanks, Scott. Released from hospital Wednesday. Leg strength up so I can
> stand up myself most of the time. Prognosis for use of right hand dismal.
> They cannot operate until IV antibiotics done on 20th, but by virtue of the
> long delay surgery may not help, so what I'll be left with when thumb stops
> being ultra tender is unknown. Spooky. Right foot works well enough for the
> walking I'm doing.
> My wife and daughter deserve halos and Nick Edgington the Eagle scout
> merit badge. Thanks to all for your support! I will make the next meeting.
> Pete
>
> Sep 29, 2025 10:14:03 AM Scott Hall <scottghall1 at gmail.com>:
>
> Pete, continued prayers for you in your recovery.  Have you been able to
> get back home yet?  Let us in the club know if there is anything we can
> help you with.
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 7:05 PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed <
> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>
>> Left Duke hosp Thursday. In a rehab hosp now in Apex. Regaining
>> flexibility and strength. Can't quite stand up by myself yet, but expect
>> that after another day of PT. IV antibiotics are going in daily for six
>> weeks to finish stamping out the infection. Meanwhile my left hand
>> dexterity is improving and I see an orthopedist this week about getting the
>> right hand fixed. It isn't fractured but there seems to be damage to
>> ligaments and/or tendons. Finally, the severe chills that have been the
>> most extreme problem (now that BP is under control) may be gone soon.
>>
>> This new place (Peak Rehab hospital on Zeno Rd, Apex) has been excellent
>> ('cept for a laughably incompetent cafeteria). It appears I'll have
>> free time each afternoon.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> Sep 7, 2025 2:37:35 PM Pete Soper <pete at soper.us>:
>>
>> Hi Gals and Guys.
>>
>> Just a note to explain my situation. On 8/30 I was at Duke ER, moved to
>> the medical ICU, then to "the floor" while being treated for a strep
>> infection in my blood causing septic shock and extremely low BP. Turns out
>> the infection has grown little tutus on the wires of my pacemaker, and
>> antibiotics cannot reach the nooks and crannies. The pacemaker has to come
>> out: a nontrivial operation. Target is. Wednesday. Then some time later
>> I'll move to a rehab hospital near home. A hand and foot injury from a fall
>> is the last thing on the list. I'm hoping to be home within a couple weeks.
>> Thanks for the notes and calls.
>> Pete
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>
>> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
>> List info:
>> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
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>> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe
>> Searchable email archive available at
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/
>>
>>
>
> --
> Scott G. Hall
> Raleigh, NC, USA
> scottghall1 at gmail.com
> *Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
> option.*
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rob at mackies.org  Sun Oct  5 22:28:02 2025
From: rob at mackies.org (Robert Mackie)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2025 23:28:02 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Update
In-Reply-To: 
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References: <4ac17e5c-3fb0-4b7f-98fa-b73f579c9d37@soper.us>
 <4209e946-3049-4896-962e-c8e31a68e313@soper.us>
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Pete - that sounds really hard. I know you are making the best of it. Call
out if anything would help. We are all thinking of you.

Rob.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 11:51 AM Don Carrick via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> I'm really sorry you're going through such an ordeal, Pete.  I hope it
> helps in your recovery to know that many people are pulling for you.
>
> Don Carrick
> 919-217-6948  Text and mobile calls
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 10:52 AM Pete Soper via TriEmbed <
> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Scott. Released from hospital Wednesday. Leg strength up so I can
>> stand up myself most of the time. Prognosis for use of right hand dismal.
>> They cannot operate until IV antibiotics done on 20th, but by virtue of the
>> long delay surgery may not help, so what I'll be left with when thumb stops
>> being ultra tender is unknown. Spooky. Right foot works well enough for the
>> walking I'm doing.
>> My wife and daughter deserve halos and Nick Edgington the Eagle scout
>> merit badge. Thanks to all for your support! I will make the next meeting.
>> Pete
>>
>> Sep 29, 2025 10:14:03 AM Scott Hall <scottghall1 at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Pete, continued prayers for you in your recovery.  Have you been able to
>> get back home yet?  Let us in the club know if there is anything we can
>> help you with.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 7:05 PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed <
>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Left Duke hosp Thursday. In a rehab hosp now in Apex. Regaining
>>> flexibility and strength. Can't quite stand up by myself yet, but expect
>>> that after another day of PT. IV antibiotics are going in daily for six
>>> weeks to finish stamping out the infection. Meanwhile my left hand
>>> dexterity is improving and I see an orthopedist this week about getting the
>>> right hand fixed. It isn't fractured but there seems to be damage to
>>> ligaments and/or tendons. Finally, the severe chills that have been the
>>> most extreme problem (now that BP is under control) may be gone soon.
>>>
>>> This new place (Peak Rehab hospital on Zeno Rd, Apex) has been excellent
>>> ('cept for a laughably incompetent cafeteria). It appears I'll have
>>> free time each afternoon.
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> Sep 7, 2025 2:37:35 PM Pete Soper <pete at soper.us>:
>>>
>>> Hi Gals and Guys.
>>>
>>> Just a note to explain my situation. On 8/30 I was at Duke ER, moved to
>>> the medical ICU, then to "the floor" while being treated for a strep
>>> infection in my blood causing septic shock and extremely low BP. Turns out
>>> the infection has grown little tutus on the wires of my pacemaker, and
>>> antibiotics cannot reach the nooks and crannies. The pacemaker has to come
>>> out: a nontrivial operation. Target is. Wednesday. Then some time later
>>> I'll move to a rehab hospital near home. A hand and foot injury from a fall
>>> is the last thing on the list. I'm hoping to be home within a couple weeks.
>>> Thanks for the notes and calls.
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>
>>> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
>>> List info:
>>> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
>>> TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org
>>> To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto:
>>> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe
>>> Searchable email archive available at
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Scott G. Hall
>> Raleigh, NC, USA
>> scottghall1 at gmail.com
>> *Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
>> option.*
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>
>> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
>> List info:
>> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
>> TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org
>> To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto:
>> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe
>> Searchable email archive available at
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>
> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
> List info: http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
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From jeremyhwllc at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 20:17:46 2025
From: jeremyhwllc at gmail.com (Jeremy Davis)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2025 21:17:46 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] TriLUG 7pm Oct 9th- Linux From Scratch (LFS) Special
 Guest Bruce Dubbs
Message-ID: 
 <CACSroP2okhr7wjUOkMixCpKxjwxysuO_2VwjzrKaRFv+hZ8fqQ@mail.gmail.com>

TriLUG has a special event this week. Co-Leader of Linux From Scratch (LFS)
Bruce Dubbs will be flying in to present. Please help us get the word out
and forward this to everyone who might benefit from becoming a Linux Fu
Master with extremely proficient command line skills!

https://trilug.org/2025/09/19/oct-9-linux-from-scratch/

Let's make sure this is a well attended event. Don't let anybody miss it!

Jeremy Davis

TriLUG
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 22:43:54 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2025 23:43:54 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] #FreeBSD journal article
Message-ID: 
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https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/embedded-2/27494/

Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 09:17:02 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 10:17:02 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Article from FreeBSD Foundation Journal
Message-ID: 
 <CALOtY4O6133wEr054qqGTamfes247P-B9kKEB3dtVK8-U9br+A@mail.gmail.com>

https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/embedded-2/27494/
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffreebsdfoundation.org%2Four-work%2Fjournal%2Fbrowser-based-edition%2Fembedded-2%2F27494%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cshall%40gilero.com%7C4899815f9e9744cc1b1808de0553c4d3%7C74762914b36b4d208b7a5969c28e9289%7C0%7C0%7C638954054517954735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=26jUez7hvf8LZfRA5eSzvHrp7wlocLgQ66NdMtbzZKI%3D&reserved=0>

Subject matter relates heavily to embedded systems, middleware library use
and retrofitting, serializing data structures for IPC, and translation
look-aside buffers.  From the top of the webpage:



*Journal > Browser Based Edition > Embedded
<https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/embedded-2/>
>
CHERIoT*



*CHERIoT*

*By David Chisnall*



*CHERI* <https://cheri-cpu.org/> is a set of architectural extensions that
provide fine-grained memory safety for everything from assembly code on up.
CHERI, like Capsicum, is a capability system. In a capability system, every
action must be accompanied by a capability, an unforgeable token of
authority, that authorizes the action.



The *CHERI* <https://cheri-cpu.org/> project has always had a close
relationship with FreeBSD. It began from observing that Capsicum-based
compartmentalization was great for new code but retrofitting it to existing
libraries (with one process per library instance) was difficult for two
reasons:



First, libraries want to share complex data structures, which imposes a lot
of serialization overhead when turning the interfaces into messages sent
over some inter-procedural communication (IPC) channel. A function call in
a normal library would simply share a data structure by passing a pointer
to an object. A privilege-separated library would need to authorize
everything moved between the caller and callee. Libraries also often want
long-term sharing, which imposes additional synchronization overhead.



Second, processes are isolated using a memory management unit (MMU), which
provides a virtual-memory abstraction with mappings from addresses in a
virtual address space to the underlying physical memory. Modern MMUs are
fast because they have a translation look-aside buffer (TLB), a fast cache
of translations. The TLB caches virtual to physical address translations.
If a single page is shared between ten processes, it will take ten TLB
entries. MMUs are great for isolation but poor for sharing.



These two problems led to the general observation: Isolation is easy,
sharing is hard.

-- 
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
option.*
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From petesoper at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 13:35:30 2025
From: petesoper at gmail.com (Pete Soper)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 14:35:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriEmbed] Fwd:  TriLUG 7pm Oct 9th- Linux From Scratch (LFS)
 Special Guest Bruce Dubbs
Message-ID: <c84397c5-5cec-4954-90b1-0cff71e2314a@gmail.com>

Oct 6, 2025 9:18:08 PM Jeremy Davis via TriEmbed <triembed at triembed.org>:


TriLUG has a special event this week. Co-Leader of Linux From Scratch (LFS) Bruce Dubbs will be flying in to present. Please help us get the word out and forward this to everyone who might benefit from becoming a Linux Fu Master with extremely proficient command line skills! 

https://trilug.org/2025/09/19/oct-9-linux-from-scratch/

Let's make sure this is a well attended event. Don't let anybody miss it!

Jeremy Davis

TriLUG


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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 09:22:38 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 10:22:38 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Qualcomm buys Arduino
Message-ID: 
 <CALOtY4OiESbU3EmC+jNH7mCQ8VLhyFUWthMb9gfxYJ51uMbqyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Article from Electronics Weekly:
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/qualcomm-buys-arduino-2025-10/?utm_id=14257&delivery_name=19568&utm_campaign=EMERALD_EW_EDITORIAL_DAILY_08102025&utm_content=EMERALD_EW_EDITORIAL_DAILY_08102025&utm_term=Qualcomm%20buys%20Arduino&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Adestra

Qualcomm is to buy Arduino to add to its edge product offering. The
> acquisition follows the integrations of Edge Impulse and Foundries.io in
>  aiming to supply a full-stack edge platform spanning hardware, software,
> and cloud services.
>
> Arduino claims it will preserve its open approach and community spirit
> while unlocking a full‑stack platform for modern development—with Arduino
> Uno Q as the first step. Arduino will retain its independent brand, tools,
> and mission, while continuing to support microcontrollers and
> microprocessors from multiple semiconductor providers, it said.
>
> Following this acquisition, the 33m+ active users in the Arduino community
> will gain access to Qualcomm’s technology stack.


-- 
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 09:24:22 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 10:24:22 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Qualcomm buys Arduino
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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Message-ID: 
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*also:*
>
> The new Arduino Uno Q is a single board computer featuring a Linux
> Debian-capable microprocessor and a separate real-time microcontroller – to
> bridge high-performance computing with real-time control.
>
> Powered by the Qualcomm Dragonwing QRB2210 processor running Linux, UNO Q
> is designed to help enable AI-powered vision and sound solutions that react
> to their environment, said the company, ranging from smart home solutions
> to industrial automation systems.


On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 10:22 AM Scott Hall <scottghall1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Article from Electronics Weekly:
>
> https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/qualcomm-buys-arduino-2025-10/?utm_id=14257&delivery_name=19568&utm_campaign=EMERALD_EW_EDITORIAL_DAILY_08102025&utm_content=EMERALD_EW_EDITORIAL_DAILY_08102025&utm_term=Qualcomm%20buys%20Arduino&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Adestra
>
> Qualcomm is to buy Arduino to add to its edge product offering. The
>> acquisition follows the integrations of Edge Impulse and Foundries.io in
>>  aiming to supply a full-stack edge platform spanning hardware, software,
>> and cloud services.
>>
>> Arduino claims it will preserve its open approach and community spirit
>> while unlocking a full‑stack platform for modern development—with Arduino
>> Uno Q as the first step. Arduino will retain its independent brand, tools,
>> and mission, while continuing to support microcontrollers and
>> microprocessors from multiple semiconductor providers, it said.
>>
>> Following this acquisition, the 33m+ active users in the Arduino
>> community will gain access to Qualcomm’s technology stack.
>
>
> --
> Scott G. Hall
> Raleigh, NC, USA
> scottghall1 at gmail.com
> *Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
> option.*
>


-- 
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
option.*
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From raubvogel at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 09:26:33 2025
From: raubvogel at gmail.com (Mauricio Tavares)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 10:26:33 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Qualcomm buys Arduino
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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Message-ID: 
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 10:23 AM Scott Hall via TriEmbed
<triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>
> Article from Electronics Weekly:
> https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/qualcomm-buys-arduino-2025-10/?utm_id=14257&delivery_name=19568&utm_campaign=EMERALD_EW_EDITORIAL_DAILY_08102025&utm_content=EMERALD_EW_EDITORIAL_DAILY_08102025&utm_term=Qualcomm%20buys%20Arduino&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Adestra
>
>> Qualcomm is to buy Arduino to add to its edge product offering. The acquisition follows the integrations of Edge Impulse and Foundries.io in  aiming to supply a full-stack edge platform spanning hardware, software, and cloud services.
>>
>> Arduino claims it will preserve its open approach and community spirit while unlocking a full‑stack platform for modern development—with Arduino Uno Q as the first step. Arduino will retain its independent brand, tools, and mission, while continuing to support microcontrollers and microprocessors from multiple semiconductor providers, it said.
>>
>> Following this acquisition, the 33m+ active users in the Arduino community will gain access to Qualcomm’s technology stack.

      That is a sad day
> --
> Scott G. Hall
> Raleigh, NC, USA
> scottghall1 at gmail.com
> Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an option.
> _______________________________________________
> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>
> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 09:46:05 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 10:46:05 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Article from FreeBSD Foundation Journal
Message-ID: 
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https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/embedded-2/27494/
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Subject matter relates heavily to embedded systems, middleware library use
and retrofitting, serializing data structures for IPC, and translation
look-aside buffers.  From the top of the webpage:



*Journal > Browser Based Edition > Embedded
<https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/embedded-2/>
>
CHERIoT*



*CHERIoT*

*By David Chisnall*



*CHERI* <https://cheri-cpu.org/> is a set of architectural extensions that
provide fine-grained memory safety for everything from assembly code on up.
CHERI, like Capsicum, is a capability system. In a capability system, every
action must be accompanied by a capability, an unforgeable token of
authority, that authorizes the action.



The *CHERI* <https://cheri-cpu.org/> project has always had a close
relationship with FreeBSD. It began from observing that Capsicum-based
compartmentalization was great for new code but retrofitting it to existing
libraries (with one process per library instance) was difficult for two
reasons:



First, libraries want to share complex data structures, which imposes a lot
of serialization overhead when turning the interfaces into messages sent
over some inter-procedural communication (IPC) channel. A function call in
a normal library would simply share a data structure by passing a pointer
to an object. A privilege-separated library would need to authorize
everything moved between the caller and callee. Libraries also often want
long-term sharing, which imposes additional synchronization overhead.



Second, processes are isolated using a memory management unit (MMU), which
provides a virtual-memory abstraction with mappings from addresses in a
virtual address space to the underlying physical memory. Modern MMUs are
fast because they have a translation look-aside buffer (TLB), a fast cache
of translations. The TLB caches virtual to physical address translations.
If a single page is shared between ten processes, it will take ten TLB
entries. MMUs are great for isolation but poor for sharing.



These two problems led to the general observation: Isolation is easy,
sharing is hard.

-- 
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
option.*
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 09:48:17 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 10:48:17 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] NXP's Technology Days
Message-ID: 
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Chip maker NXP's Technology Days happening in Detroit on the 29th & 30th.
Might be worth going just to talk with the expo vendorsn (if you can afford
it - cost and time off):
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-- 
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
option.*
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 09:52:53 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 10:52:53 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Trusted parts purchasing ...
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-- 
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
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From paulmacd at acm.org  Thu Oct  9 08:27:54 2025
From: paulmacd at acm.org (The MacDougals)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 09:27:54 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
Message-ID: <06d101dc3920$85e97ac0$91bc7040$@acm.org>

We will have our normal monthly meeting on Monday 10/13/25 at 7:00 pm

 

Agenda:

- Welcome

- Announcements

- P.O.T.M.

- Tiny ESP32-S3 and RPI-2040

- Show and Tell

 

The plan for this month is to meet in person at:

The Forge Initiative

1012 Investment Blvd, Suite 103

Apex, NC 27502

 

We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.

 

---> Paul

 

 

 

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From triembed at undecidedgames.net  Thu Oct  9 10:56:56 2025
From: triembed at undecidedgames.net (Brian)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 11:56:56 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
In-Reply-To: <06d101dc3920$85e97ac0$91bc7040$@acm.org>
References: <06d101dc3920$85e97ac0$91bc7040$@acm.org>
Message-ID: <529c346e-7789-4c6d-9ad6-1b15d3b8593f@undecidedgames.net>

> 
> We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
> 

Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday night 
commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually, but 
I'd be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.

-B

From paulmacd at acm.org  Thu Oct  9 14:33:27 2025
From: paulmacd at acm.org (The MacDougals)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 15:33:27 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
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References: <06d101dc3920$85e97ac0$91bc7040$@acm.org>
 <529c346e-7789-4c6d-9ad6-1b15d3b8593f@undecidedgames.net>
Message-ID: <071601dc3953$979893e0$c6c9bba0$@acm.org>

The effort and equipment to host a virtual meeting as well as a physical one is too much for us to handle.
We have had volunteers in the past to record physical meetings when we were meeting at NCSU.
Those volunteers no longer attend.

---> Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: TriEmbed <triembed-bounces at triembed.org> On Behalf Of Brian via TriEmbed
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2025 11:57 AM
To: triembed at triembed.org
Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge

> 
> We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
> 

Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday night commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually, but I'd be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.

-B

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From carl.nobile at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 08:21:35 2025
From: carl.nobile at gmail.com (Carl Nobile)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 15:21:35 +0200
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
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Speaking of a recording, I'm still in Italy, if someone else can record the
meeting, I'll edit it when I get home after the 14th.
Carl

--------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J. Nobile (Software Engineer/API Design)
carl.nobile at gmail.com
--------------------------------------------------------------

On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 9:34 PM The MacDougals via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> The effort and equipment to host a virtual meeting as well as a physical
> one is too much for us to handle.
> We have had volunteers in the past to record physical meetings when we
> were meeting at NCSU.
> Those volunteers no longer attend.
>
> ---> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TriEmbed <triembed-bounces at triembed.org> On Behalf Of Brian via
> TriEmbed
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2025 11:57 AM
> To: triembed at triembed.org
> Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The
> Forge
>
> >
> > We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
> >
>
> Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday night
> commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually, but I'd
> be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.
>
> -B
>
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From dawn.trembath at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 10:45:55 2025
From: dawn.trembath at gmail.com (Dawn Trembath)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:45:55 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
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 <071601dc3953$979893e0$c6c9bba0$@acm.org>
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Hi Carl,

I'm pretty sure I'll be attending this month, so can do the recording.

dt

On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 9:22 AM Carl Nobile via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> Speaking of a recording, I'm still in Italy, if someone else can record
> the meeting, I'll edit it when I get home after the 14th.
> Carl
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Carl J. Nobile (Software Engineer/API Design)
> carl.nobile at gmail.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 9:34 PM The MacDougals via TriEmbed <
> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>
>> The effort and equipment to host a virtual meeting as well as a physical
>> one is too much for us to handle.
>> We have had volunteers in the past to record physical meetings when we
>> were meeting at NCSU.
>> Those volunteers no longer attend.
>>
>> ---> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TriEmbed <triembed-bounces at triembed.org> On Behalf Of Brian via
>> TriEmbed
>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2025 11:57 AM
>> To: triembed at triembed.org
>> Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The
>> Forge
>>
>> >
>> > We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
>> >
>>
>> Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday night
>> commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually, but I'd
>> be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.
>>
>> -B
>>
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From dawn.trembath at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 09:55:30 2025
From: dawn.trembath at gmail.com (Dawn Trembath)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 10:55:30 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
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In thinking through the details, I realize I may not be able to record
tonight's meeting.

It's fairly straightforward to record a jitsi meeting when everyone is
joining remotely using their own computer.

But, doing the recording when people are in the same room becomes more
complicated.

In order to get decent sound, we'd need recording equipment
(microphone/speakers, camera, dedicated laptop), as well as a second laptop
to do the recording, which is a pain to set up. The other option is to have
everyone in the room log in to jitsi individually, with one person doing
the recording. Navigating feedback issues is the painful part here. If I
recall from the last time we tried this, different devices had different
behaviors, rendering the audio a mess.

So, I think it's reasonable to expect we could record remote meetings, but
much less so for in person meetings.

dt


On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 11:45 AM Dawn Trembath <dawn.trembath at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Carl,
>
> I'm pretty sure I'll be attending this month, so can do the recording.
>
> dt
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 9:22 AM Carl Nobile via TriEmbed <
> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of a recording, I'm still in Italy, if someone else can record
>> the meeting, I'll edit it when I get home after the 14th.
>> Carl
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> Carl J. Nobile (Software Engineer/API Design)
>> carl.nobile at gmail.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 9:34 PM The MacDougals via TriEmbed <
>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The effort and equipment to host a virtual meeting as well as a physical
>>> one is too much for us to handle.
>>> We have had volunteers in the past to record physical meetings when we
>>> were meeting at NCSU.
>>> Those volunteers no longer attend.
>>>
>>> ---> Paul
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TriEmbed <triembed-bounces at triembed.org> On Behalf Of Brian via
>>> TriEmbed
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2025 11:57 AM
>>> To: triembed at triembed.org
>>> Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The
>>> Forge
>>>
>>> >
>>> > We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday night
>>> commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually, but I'd
>>> be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.
>>>
>>> -B
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>
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From ncgadgetry at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 10:02:56 2025
From: ncgadgetry at gmail.com (Rodney Radford)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 11:02:56 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
In-Reply-To: 
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 <071601dc3953$979893e0$c6c9bba0$@acm.org>
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In person meetings used to be recorded regularly, so it can be done. Just
focus on recording the speaker not the entire room

I was looking forward to seeing tonight but I cannot be there in person

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025, 10:56 AM Dawn Trembath via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> In thinking through the details, I realize I may not be able to record
> tonight's meeting.
>
> It's fairly straightforward to record a jitsi meeting when everyone is
> joining remotely using their own computer.
>
> But, doing the recording when people are in the same room becomes more
> complicated.
>
> In order to get decent sound, we'd need recording equipment
> (microphone/speakers, camera, dedicated laptop), as well as a second laptop
> to do the recording, which is a pain to set up. The other option is to have
> everyone in the room log in to jitsi individually, with one person doing
> the recording. Navigating feedback issues is the painful part here. If I
> recall from the last time we tried this, different devices had different
> behaviors, rendering the audio a mess.
>
> So, I think it's reasonable to expect we could record remote meetings, but
> much less so for in person meetings.
>
> dt
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 11:45 AM Dawn Trembath <dawn.trembath at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I'll be attending this month, so can do the recording.
>>
>> dt
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 9:22 AM Carl Nobile via TriEmbed <
>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of a recording, I'm still in Italy, if someone else can record
>>> the meeting, I'll edit it when I get home after the 14th.
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Carl J. Nobile (Software Engineer/API Design)
>>> carl.nobile at gmail.com
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 9:34 PM The MacDougals via TriEmbed <
>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The effort and equipment to host a virtual meeting as well as a
>>>> physical one is too much for us to handle.
>>>> We have had volunteers in the past to record physical meetings when we
>>>> were meeting at NCSU.
>>>> Those volunteers no longer attend.
>>>>
>>>> ---> Paul
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TriEmbed <triembed-bounces at triembed.org> On Behalf Of Brian via
>>>> TriEmbed
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2025 11:57 AM
>>>> To: triembed at triembed.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at
>>>> The Forge
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday
>>>> night commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually,
>>>> but I'd be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.
>>>>
>>>> -B
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>>
>>>> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
>>>> List info:
>>>> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
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>>>> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe
>>>> Searchable email archive available at
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>>
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>>>> List info:
>>>> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
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>>>> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe
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From bob at steinbeiser.com  Mon Oct 13 10:28:26 2025
From: bob at steinbeiser.com (Bob Steinbeiser)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 11:28:26 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
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I would appreciate it if someone could unsubscribe me from this list.  I
tried using the web interface to no avail!

Thanks,
Bob

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 10:56 AM Dawn Trembath via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> In thinking through the details, I realize I may not be able to record
> tonight's meeting.
>
> It's fairly straightforward to record a jitsi meeting when everyone is
> joining remotely using their own computer.
>
> But, doing the recording when people are in the same room becomes more
> complicated.
>
> In order to get decent sound, we'd need recording equipment
> (microphone/speakers, camera, dedicated laptop), as well as a second laptop
> to do the recording, which is a pain to set up. The other option is to have
> everyone in the room log in to jitsi individually, with one person doing
> the recording. Navigating feedback issues is the painful part here. If I
> recall from the last time we tried this, different devices had different
> behaviors, rendering the audio a mess.
>
> So, I think it's reasonable to expect we could record remote meetings, but
> much less so for in person meetings.
>
> dt
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 11:45 AM Dawn Trembath <dawn.trembath at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I'll be attending this month, so can do the recording.
>>
>> dt
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 9:22 AM Carl Nobile via TriEmbed <
>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of a recording, I'm still in Italy, if someone else can record
>>> the meeting, I'll edit it when I get home after the 14th.
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Carl J. Nobile (Software Engineer/API Design)
>>> carl.nobile at gmail.com
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 9:34 PM The MacDougals via TriEmbed <
>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The effort and equipment to host a virtual meeting as well as a
>>>> physical one is too much for us to handle.
>>>> We have had volunteers in the past to record physical meetings when we
>>>> were meeting at NCSU.
>>>> Those volunteers no longer attend.
>>>>
>>>> ---> Paul
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TriEmbed <triembed-bounces at triembed.org> On Behalf Of Brian via
>>>> TriEmbed
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2025 11:57 AM
>>>> To: triembed at triembed.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at
>>>> The Forge
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday
>>>> night commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually,
>>>> but I'd be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.
>>>>
>>>> -B
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>>
>>>> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
>>>> List info:
>>>> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
>>>> TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto:
>>>> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe
>>>> Searchable email archive available at
>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>>
>>>> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
>>>> List info:
>>>> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
>>>> TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto:
>>>> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe
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>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>
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>
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From pete at soper.us  Mon Oct 13 11:39:16 2025
From: pete at soper.us (Pete soper)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 12:39:16 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] unsubscribing was Re:  Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in
 person at The Forge
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 <071601dc3953$979893e0$c6c9bba0$@acm.org>
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 From the email list page <https://triembed.org/email-list-info/> on the 
web site:

" to unsubscribe just follow the instructions at the bottom of any list 
message."

But I was offline almost five weeks and apologize if there was an email 
request.

Pete

On 10/13/25 11:28, Bob Steinbeiser via TriEmbed wrote:
> I would appreciate it if someone could unsubscribe me from this list.  
> I tried using the web interface to no avail!
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
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From dawn.trembath at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 16:45:41 2025
From: dawn.trembath at gmail.com (Dawn Trembath)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:41 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
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Message-ID: 
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Pete and I chatted this afternoon. We just don't have access to the
equipment we used for those previous recordings, so that's out for tonight.

We're hoping to get together sometime before the Nov. meeting, with all
equipment in tow, to recreate a working setup. We'll post instructions to
the list, so anyone who's interested can set up and record future meetings.

As far as tonight is concerned, a possibility would be to try using a few
laptops, one to host and one to record the jitsi session. Not ideal, but
might at least be able to capture audio from whoever has the host laptop in
front of them.



On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 11:03 AM Rodney Radford <ncgadgetry at gmail.com>
wrote:

> In person meetings used to be recorded regularly, so it can be done. Just
> focus on recording the speaker not the entire room
>
> I was looking forward to seeing tonight but I cannot be there in person
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2025, 10:56 AM Dawn Trembath via TriEmbed <
> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>
>> In thinking through the details, I realize I may not be able to record
>> tonight's meeting.
>>
>> It's fairly straightforward to record a jitsi meeting when everyone is
>> joining remotely using their own computer.
>>
>> But, doing the recording when people are in the same room becomes more
>> complicated.
>>
>> In order to get decent sound, we'd need recording equipment
>> (microphone/speakers, camera, dedicated laptop), as well as a second laptop
>> to do the recording, which is a pain to set up. The other option is to have
>> everyone in the room log in to jitsi individually, with one person doing
>> the recording. Navigating feedback issues is the painful part here. If I
>> recall from the last time we tried this, different devices had different
>> behaviors, rendering the audio a mess.
>>
>> So, I think it's reasonable to expect we could record remote meetings,
>> but much less so for in person meetings.
>>
>> dt
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 11:45 AM Dawn Trembath <dawn.trembath at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure I'll be attending this month, so can do the recording.
>>>
>>> dt
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 9:22 AM Carl Nobile via TriEmbed <
>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Speaking of a recording, I'm still in Italy, if someone else can record
>>>> the meeting, I'll edit it when I get home after the 14th.
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Carl J. Nobile (Software Engineer/API Design)
>>>> carl.nobile at gmail.com
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 9:34 PM The MacDougals via TriEmbed <
>>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The effort and equipment to host a virtual meeting as well as a
>>>>> physical one is too much for us to handle.
>>>>> We have had volunteers in the past to record physical meetings when we
>>>>> were meeting at NCSU.
>>>>> Those volunteers no longer attend.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: TriEmbed <triembed-bounces at triembed.org> On Behalf Of Brian via
>>>>> TriEmbed
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2025 11:57 AM
>>>>> To: triembed at triembed.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at
>>>>> The Forge
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday
>>>>> night commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually,
>>>>> but I'd be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.
>>>>>
>>>>> -B
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>>>
>>>>> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
>>>>> List info:
>>>>> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org
>>>>> TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto:
>>>>> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe
>>>>> Searchable email archive available at
>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list
>>>>>
>>>>> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org
>>>>> List info:
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 17:45:39 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 18:45:39 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at The Forge
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I'm running late - 35 min or so....

Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
option.*

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025, 5:46 PM Dawn Trembath via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> Pete and I chatted this afternoon. We just don't have access to the
> equipment we used for those previous recordings, so that's out for tonight.
>
> We're hoping to get together sometime before the Nov. meeting, with all
> equipment in tow, to recreate a working setup. We'll post instructions to
> the list, so anyone who's interested can set up and record future meetings.
>
> As far as tonight is concerned, a possibility would be to try using a few
> laptops, one to host and one to record the jitsi session. Not ideal, but
> might at least be able to capture audio from whoever has the host laptop in
> front of them.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 11:03 AM Rodney Radford <ncgadgetry at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In person meetings used to be recorded regularly, so it can be done. Just
>> focus on recording the speaker not the entire room
>>
>> I was looking forward to seeing tonight but I cannot be there in person
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2025, 10:56 AM Dawn Trembath via TriEmbed <
>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>
>>> In thinking through the details, I realize I may not be able to record
>>> tonight's meeting.
>>>
>>> It's fairly straightforward to record a jitsi meeting when everyone is
>>> joining remotely using their own computer.
>>>
>>> But, doing the recording when people are in the same room becomes more
>>> complicated.
>>>
>>> In order to get decent sound, we'd need recording equipment
>>> (microphone/speakers, camera, dedicated laptop), as well as a second laptop
>>> to do the recording, which is a pain to set up. The other option is to have
>>> everyone in the room log in to jitsi individually, with one person doing
>>> the recording. Navigating feedback issues is the painful part here. If I
>>> recall from the last time we tried this, different devices had different
>>> behaviors, rendering the audio a mess.
>>>
>>> So, I think it's reasonable to expect we could record remote meetings,
>>> but much less so for in person meetings.
>>>
>>> dt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 11:45 AM Dawn Trembath <dawn.trembath at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Carl,
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure I'll be attending this month, so can do the recording.
>>>>
>>>> dt
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 9:22 AM Carl Nobile via TriEmbed <
>>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of a recording, I'm still in Italy, if someone else can
>>>>> record the meeting, I'll edit it when I get home after the 14th.
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Carl J. Nobile (Software Engineer/API Design)
>>>>> carl.nobile at gmail.com
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 9:34 PM The MacDougals via TriEmbed <
>>>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The effort and equipment to host a virtual meeting as well as a
>>>>>> physical one is too much for us to handle.
>>>>>> We have had volunteers in the past to record physical meetings when
>>>>>> we were meeting at NCSU.
>>>>>> Those volunteers no longer attend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: TriEmbed <triembed-bounces at triembed.org> On Behalf Of Brian
>>>>>> via TriEmbed
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2025 11:57 AM
>>>>>> To: triembed at triembed.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm in person at
>>>>>> The Forge
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We do NOT plan to use jitsi for those who cannot make it in person.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of curiosity, why not?  Unfortunately I have a standing Monday
>>>>>> night commitment that means I can neither attend in person nor virtually,
>>>>>> but I'd be interested in a recording of the meeting, perhaps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -B
>>>>>>
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From pete at soper.us  Mon Oct 13 18:10:55 2025
From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 19:10:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriEmbed] No remote support tonight
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Apologies, but we couldn't get it together this time.
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 19:51:14 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 20:51:14 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Watch "Qualcomm just bought Arduino,
 and they're making a tiny
 computer" on YouTube
Message-ID: 
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https://youtu.be/CfKX616-nsE?si=6LJLn17aYtpijhyl

-- 
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
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From c.j.lord at ieee.org  Mon Oct 13 20:42:21 2025
From: c.j.lord at ieee.org (Charles J. Lord, PE)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 21:42:21 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Watch "Qualcomm just bought Arduino, and they're
 making a tiny computer" on YouTube
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I have a Q on order from DigiKey. Looks to be an interesting board.

Charles J. Lord, PE
President, Blue Ridge Advanced Design and Automation
Past Chair, IEEE-USA Consultants Committee
Life Member Chair, IEEE Western NC Section
Chair, IEEE NC Council
Co-Chair, IEEE SoutheastCon 2025
c.j.lord at ieee.org

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025, 8:51 PM Scott Hall via TriEmbed <triembed at triembed.org>
wrote:

> https://youtu.be/CfKX616-nsE?si=6LJLn17aYtpijhyl
>
> --
> Scott G. Hall
> Raleigh, NC, USA
> scottghall1 at gmail.com
> *Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
> option.*
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From ncgadgetry at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 00:53:42 2025
From: ncgadgetry at gmail.com (Rodney Radford)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 01:53:42 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] No remote support tonight
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Who presented Monday night and is there anything - slide show, video, etc -
that can be forwarded to me?

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 7:11 PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> Apologies, but we couldn't get it together this time.
> Pete
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From paulmacd at acm.org  Tue Oct 14 09:17:22 2025
From: paulmacd at acm.org (The MacDougals)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:17:22 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Summary of 10/13/25 Meeting
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9 attendees

 

Announcements:

All Things Open happening now (until 10/14)

PCB Carolina – 11/12

Design-2-Part Show – 10/29 & 10/30

 

P.O.T.M.

>From last month’s problem, Shane explained why the P MOSFET in the C3 pico schematic is backwards.

https://www.wemos.cc/en/latest/_static/files/sch_c3_pico_v1.0.0.pdf

Q1 in the lower left has the body diode in what looks like an always conducting orientation.

Here is a Falstad simulation of the battery isolation and reverse polarity protection.

https://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitjs.html?ctz=CQAgjCAMB0l3BWcAmWDLMgZgBxmcgCxg4CcSCAbCBZDQKYC0YYAUAGYinXIDsyXavhwgsWcNCQwMrAE4hKhEHwGLRlEXTDw4rACaDl-cKQErl4AHIJeLVgHcTZ42FMpNDp+-D5vkT8xCyCKMhCLCUJ5q5txGAv4A5gpKWBrJojhKdP4ASiCMschU+YVEUOUQUuUwCKx5BUK+DSA42eWEdITQEG01rADO+WFx4DzGbewAhgA2-fSsAA6imN5YK1gIAuJt2jq6jq5baWqpHvJFQm4Xyjia4PCeh97XEf6OL8HKxU9vXzy3f3UHnexVOXjB-kwvCG4U+oREsSUADUAEIAQQAKqwoaMRmAeB0QMiUQBVADK2Mg0MCokgShpa06IAAkgA7OayAAuAB1+uSUawyTDvM1XuUprN6OVkHUSkJCPTYmBeNQ2oTQt1qlBJI8xqolOZftcwYygZFHKaTetNubllpPh8PDiwAraUoXSkVkoyQBjAAWAHtOZyANYAT15ABEAJYBvTzIXwkbNQ3imZzaWylMA5qmtV0RhVbI6nFK3xKz5KHL0ABu9Fkcz0vIACowAGIAUSxgxpEWGYroErmnn7n1afkp0Pxoy0QhVRJAzYD9nrvLJ9mjnP9rCAA

1.	With VBAT (USB power) off and VBAT at +4.1V, the body diode conducts, but also R8 pulls down the gate which enhances the MOSFET and it conducts.
2.	With VBAT (USB power) off and VBAT at -4.1V, the body diode does not conducts, R8 pulls down the gate but the MOSFET is not enhanced since it is higher voltage than VBAT.
3.	With VBAT (USB power) at +5 and VBAT at +4.1V, the body diode does not conduct. R8 does not pull down the gate and the MOSFET is not conducting.
4.	With VBAT (USB power) at -5 and VBAT at -4.1V … We did not talk about this case.

 

With the MOSFET installed in the forward direction:

1.	With VBAT (USB power) off and VBAT at +4.1V, the body diode does not conduct, R8 pulls down the gate which enhances the MOSFET and it conducts.
2.	With VBAT (USB power) off and VBAT at -4.1V, the body diode conducts and bad things happen as current flows the wrong way
3.	With VBAT (USB power) at +5 and VBAT at +4.1V, the body diode conducts and current flows into the battery.

 

Shane says he has to think through P-FETs over and over and often still gets it wrong on the first try.

 

 

Golf Cart caddy robots

*	https://www.amazon.com/vdp/0505b34b64a74ead982bedb9ca697bb2?product=B0CTLQFN7C <https://www.amazon.com/vdp/0505b34b64a74ead982bedb9ca697bb2?product=B0CTLQFN7C&ref=cm_sw_cp_r_ib_dt_GqX7TFBSYx1rr> &ref=cm_sw_cp_r_ib_dt_GqX7TFBSYx1rr
*	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbbB6Q-9d00
*	6:18 - remote controls
*	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5md-nI0PLMg
*	https://www.caddytrek.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/CaddyTrek-R3X-User-Manual.pdf
*	Follow Mode
*	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWhwjzcx-5E
*	Marching Mode
*	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea1G-qfPW7Y
*	https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MUNPBY-ayTA

 

Nick’s presentation on using RP2040 and ESP32s3

 

2.8” round display with touch screen powered by ESP32S3

https://www.amazon.com/Waveshare-Capacitive-Development-Dual-core-Processor/dp/B0DMJZPH2R/ref=sr_1_3?crid=305CVAL77KDZK&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ZVKSkz9QUp4yDK6bhcSnvHZJQcvEHL62dzudh8NCG8rE-7v8yB-ByEFEVFkDKWV4UT3zd4olONkX225u9U4Zm0Iu1rQbqcMY-KFDw9ZgigkTTabjjze80J9vZrSqwERMOJP_8GwmczaT4rIIUPRg8i6WaNgLizf0hErUPVFZfn2zITWXE2iOXY0jiDAMnuHbFhmAAUx8KhN5v4TEyBAg4fCYkZs8Is_hKjiiscyLf3c.8zceK6_QrPDx1cK6o8u_n4gasPSd7pefuEdBJkyfmJ8&dib_tag=se&keywords=waveshare+esp32-s3+2.8inch+capacitive+touch&qid=1760449294&sprefix=waveshare+esp32-s3+2.8%2Caps%2C100&sr=8-3

 

LVGL graphics library is wonderful.

Trying to control precise timing of DMA while doing LVGL and touch was problematic.

Solution was to use RP2040 stamp (USB interface is via a removable ribbon cable) to control the timing sensitive stuff.

I2C was used to pass JSON commands between the two processors.

EDGER code lives once more.

 

Misc

Talked about tariff impacts on price and shipping.

Glen Smith gave away a large quantity of nice watertight boxes with some electronics inside.  Buck DC converter and some Bluetooth thing that would be difficult to reverse engineer.

Paul re-discovered that shields for Arduino boards do not need to cover all of the pins.  The lower 4 pins (Gnd, 3v3, 5v, D5) of a D1 mini are all you need for a project with minimal I/O requirements.

 

 

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From pete at soper.us  Wed Oct 15 09:24:02 2025
From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 10:24:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriEmbed] Nvidia stand alone AI box $4k
Message-ID: <32f776cd-5508-4204-8261-e6b6db2d117b@soper.us>

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/10/nvidia-sells-tiny-new-computer-that-puts-big-ai-on-your-desktop/

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From triembed at undecidedgames.net  Wed Oct 15 09:27:06 2025
From: triembed at undecidedgames.net (Brian)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 10:27:06 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] unsubscribing was Re: Monthly meeting 10/13 at 7:00pm
 in person at The Forge
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On 10/13/25 12:39, Pete soper via TriEmbed wrote:
> But I was offline almost five weeks and apologize if there was an email 
> request.

Does a standard unsub require human intervention?  Seems like it 
shouldn't, if it does.  If it unavoidably does require a human in the 
process, I volunteer to be a backup human[1] when Pete isn't in the saddle.

-B

[1] - Cloudflare believes I am human, and that's good enough for me!

From triembed at undecidedgames.net  Wed Oct 15 09:36:58 2025
From: triembed at undecidedgames.net (Brian)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 10:36:58 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Summary of 10/13/25 Meeting
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Paul,

This is a fabulous set of minutes from Monday's meeting.  Thank you for 
preparing and sending it out.  Was this a one-off effort or something 
you (or someone) does regularly?  I don't want to place undue onus on 
anyone, but this sure was a great chunk of info to receive since I'm 
routinely unable to attend the meeting.

Cheers,
-Brian

On 10/14/25 10:17, The MacDougals via TriEmbed wrote:
> *9 attendees*
> 
> **
> 
> *Announcements:*
> 
> All Things Open happening now (until 10/14)
> 
> PCB Carolina – 11/12
> 
> Design-2-Part Show – 10/29 & 10/30
> 
> *P.O.T.M.*
> 
>  From last month’s problem, Shane explained why the P MOSFET in the C3 
> pico schematic is backwards.
> 
> https://www.wemos.cc/en/latest/_static/files/sch_c3_pico_v1.0.0.pdf 
> <https://www.wemos.cc/en/latest/_static/files/sch_c3_pico_v1.0.0.pdf>
> 
> Q1 in the lower left has the body diode in what looks like an always 
> conducting orientation.
> 
> Here is a Falstad simulation of the battery isolation and reverse 
> polarity protection.
> 
> https://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitjs.html? 
> ctz=CQAgjCAMB0l3BWcAmWDLMgZgBxmcgCxg4CcSCAbCBZDQKYC0YYAUAGYinXIDsyXavhwgsWcNCQwMrAE4hKhEHwGLRlEXTDw4rACaDl-cKQErl4AHIJeLVgHcTZ42FMpNDp+-D5vkT8xCyCKMhCLCUJ5q5txGAv4A5gpKWBrJojhKdP4ASiCMschU+YVEUOUQUuUwCKx5BUK+DSA42eWEdITQEG01rADO+WFx4DzGbewAhgA2-fSsAA6imN5YK1gIAuJt2jq6jq5baWqpHvJFQm4Xyjia4PCeh97XEf6OL8HKxU9vXzy3f3UHnexVOXjB-kwvCG4U+oREsSUADUAEIAQQAKqwoaMRmAeB0QMiUQBVADK2Mg0MCokgShpa06IAAkgA7OayAAuAB1+uSUawyTDvM1XuUprN6OVkHUSkJCPTYmBeNQ2oTQt1qlBJI8xqolOZftcwYygZFHKaTetNubllpPh8PDiwAraUoXSkVkoyQBjAAWAHtOZyANYAT15ABEAJYBvTzIXwkbNQ3imZzaWylMA5qmtV0RhVbI6nFK3xKz5KHL0ABu9Fkcz0vIACowAGIAUSxgxpEWGYroErmnn7n1afkp0Pxoy0QhVRJAzYD9nrvLJ9mjnP9rCAA <https://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitjs.html?ctz=CQAgjCAMB0l3BWcAmWDLMgZgBxmcgCxg4CcSCAbCBZDQKYC0YYAUAGYinXIDsyXavhwgsWcNCQwMrAE4hKhEHwGLRlEXTDw4rACaDl-cKQErl4AHIJeLVgHcTZ42FMpNDp+-D5vkT8xCyCKMhCLCUJ5q5txGAv4A5gpKWBrJojhKdP4ASiCMschU+YVEUOUQUuUwCKx5BUK+DSA42eWEdITQEG01rADO+WFx4DzGbewAhgA2-fSsAA6imN5YK1gIAuJt2jq6jq5baWqpHvJFQm4Xyjia4PCeh97XEf6OL8HKxU9vXzy3f3UHnexVOXjB-kwvCG4U+oREsSUADUAEIAQQAKqwoaMRmAeB0QMiUQBVADK2Mg0MCokgShpa06IAAkgA7OayAAuAB1+uSUawyTDvM1XuUprN6OVkHUSkJCPTYmBeNQ2oTQt1qlBJI8xqolOZftcwYygZFHKaTetNubllpPh8PDiwAraUoXSkVkoyQBjAAWAHtOZyANYAT15ABEAJYBvTzIXwkbNQ3imZzaWylMA5qmtV0RhVbI6nFK3xKz5KHL0ABu9Fkcz0vIACowAGIAUSxgxpEWGYroErmnn7n1afkp0Pxoy0QhVRJAzYD9nrvLJ9mjnP9rCAA>
> 
>  1. With VBAT (USB power) off and VBAT at +4.1V, the body diode
>     conducts, but also R8 pulls down the gate which enhances the MOSFET
>     and it conducts.
>  2. With VBAT (USB power) off and VBAT at -4.1V, the body diode does not
>     conducts, R8 pulls down the gate but the MOSFET is not enhanced
>     since it is higher voltage than VBAT.
>  3. With VBAT (USB power) at +5 and VBAT at +4.1V, the body diode does
>     not conduct. R8 does not pull down the gate and the MOSFET is not
>     conducting.
>  4. With VBAT (USB power) at -5 and VBAT at -4.1V … We did not talk
>     about this case.
> 
> With the MOSFET installed in the forward direction:
> 
>  1. With VBAT (USB power) off and VBAT at +4.1V, the body diode does not
>     conduct, R8 pulls down the gate which enhances the MOSFET and it
>     conducts.
>  2. With VBAT (USB power) off and VBAT at -4.1V, the body diode conducts
>     and bad things happen as current flows the wrong way
>  3. With VBAT (USB power) at +5 and VBAT at +4.1V, the body diode
>     conducts and current flows into the battery.
> 
> Shane says he has to think through P-FETs over and over and often still 
> gets it wrong on the first try.
> 
> *Golf Cart caddy robots*
> 
>   * https://www.amazon.com/vdp/0505b34b64a74ead982bedb9ca697bb2?
>     product=B0CTLQFN7C&ref=cm_sw_cp_r_ib_dt_GqX7TFBSYx1rr <https://
>     www.amazon.com/vdp/0505b34b64a74ead982bedb9ca697bb2?
>     product=B0CTLQFN7C&ref=cm_sw_cp_r_ib_dt_GqX7TFBSYx1rr>
>   * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbbB6Q-9d00 <https://
>     www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbbB6Q-9d00>
>   * 6:18 - remote controls
>   * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5md-nI0PLMg <https://
>     www.youtube.com/watch?v=5md-nI0PLMg>
>   * https://www.caddytrek.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/CaddyTrek-R3X-
>     User-Manual.pdf <https://www.caddytrek.com/wp-content/
>     uploads/2024/09/CaddyTrek-R3X-User-Manual.pdf>
>   * Follow Mode
>   * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWhwjzcx-5E <https://
>     www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWhwjzcx-5E>
>   * Marching Mode
>   * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea1G-qfPW7Y <https://
>     www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea1G-qfPW7Y>
>   * https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MUNPBY-ayTA <https://www.youtube.com/
>     shorts/MUNPBY-ayTA>
> 
> *Nick’s presentation on using RP2040 and ESP32s3*
> 
> 2.8” round display with touch screen powered by ESP32S3
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Waveshare-Capacitive-Development-Dual-core- 
> Processor/dp/B0DMJZPH2R/ref=sr_1_3? 
> crid=305CVAL77KDZK&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ZVKSkz9QUp4yDK6bhcSnvHZJQcvEHL62dzudh8NCG8rE-7v8yB-ByEFEVFkDKWV4UT3zd4olONkX225u9U4Zm0Iu1rQbqcMY-KFDw9ZgigkTTabjjze80J9vZrSqwERMOJP_8GwmczaT4rIIUPRg8i6WaNgLizf0hErUPVFZfn2zITWXE2iOXY0jiDAMnuHbFhmAAUx8KhN5v4TEyBAg4fCYkZs8Is_hKjiiscyLf3c.8zceK6_QrPDx1cK6o8u_n4gasPSd7pefuEdBJkyfmJ8&dib_tag=se&keywords=waveshare+esp32-s3+2.8inch+capacitive+touch&qid=1760449294&sprefix=waveshare+esp32-s3+2.8%2Caps%2C100&sr=8-3 <https://www.amazon.com/Waveshare-Capacitive-Development-Dual-core-Processor/dp/B0DMJZPH2R/ref=sr_1_3?crid=305CVAL77KDZK&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ZVKSkz9QUp4yDK6bhcSnvHZJQcvEHL62dzudh8NCG8rE-7v8yB-ByEFEVFkDKWV4UT3zd4olONkX225u9U4Zm0Iu1rQbqcMY-KFDw9ZgigkTTabjjze80J9vZrSqwERMOJP_8GwmczaT4rIIUPRg8i6WaNgLizf0hErUPVFZfn2zITWXE2iOXY0jiDAMnuHbFhmAAUx8KhN5v4TEyBAg4fCYkZs8Is_hKjiiscyLf3c.8zceK6_QrPDx1cK6o8u_n4gasPSd7pefuEdBJkyfmJ8&dib_tag=se&keywords=waveshare+esp32-s3+2.8inch+capacitive+touch&qid=1760449294&sprefix=waveshare+esp32-s3+2.8%2Caps%2C100&sr=8-3>
> 
> LVGL graphics library is wonderful.
> 
> Trying to control precise timing of DMA while doing LVGL and touch was 
> problematic.
> 
> Solution was to use RP2040 stamp (USB interface is via a removable 
> ribbon cable) to control the timing sensitive stuff.
> 
> I2C was used to pass JSON commands between the two processors.
> 
> EDGER code lives once more.
> 
> *Misc*
> 
> Talked about tariff impacts on price and shipping.
> 
> Glen Smith gave away a large quantity of nice watertight boxes with some 
> electronics inside.  Buck DC converter and some Bluetooth thing that 
> would be difficult to reverse engineer.
> 
> Paul re-discovered that shields for Arduino boards do not need to cover 
> all of the pins.  The lower 4 pins (Gnd, 3v3, 5v, D5) of a D1 mini are 
> all you need for a project with minimal I/O requirements.
> 
> 
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From pete at soper.us  Wed Oct 15 14:25:05 2025
From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 15:25:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriEmbed] unsubscribing administrivia
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Message-ID: <5286ef2d-fe9e-427d-b63b-6fda244376ad@soper.us>

Excuse my candor.
The list is  a GNU Mailman instance. It used to be trivial for users to subscribe/unsubscribe[https://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org]  but now it's hard for some. But Mailman isn't different, some of it's users are.
Putting an "easy out" mailto link at the bottom of every posting seemed like a good idea at the time. So a fraction of folks are subscribing and unsubscribing using the link above and (almost) everybody else hits the mailto and that's no problem. But I failed to check my mail for a backlog this time.
The unfortunate problem with the list membership admin is that it involves a
password I can't share. I'll see if I can fix this with a sharable password. This is different from list moderation that has its own sharable password.
Pete
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 09:57:50 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 10:57:50 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Circuit Cellar article related to Nick's presentation at
 the Oct. meeting
Message-ID: 
 <CALOtY4M8zmBA8pj5Vj5ruQrf==M1XTsqNBmYmbo4fR0hpWZsbg@mail.gmail.com>

I caught this from the latest Circuit Cellar newsletter:

* <https://www.circuitcellar.com/>*Inspiring the Evolution of Embedded
Design

October 14, 2025   The Pulse Between the Pins


Editor's Desk by Kirsten Campbell



The Ties That Bind: Engineering Reliability Through Connection

Modern systems are shifting toward zonal and modular architectures, where
intelligence is distributed instead of centralized. Each zone has its own
local microcontroller brain that makes fast, context-aware decisions and
report upstream only when necessary. It’s like having a team of specialists
rather than one overworked manager.


Now? That same microcontroller might be one of dozens inside a car door, or
part of a swarm of sensors in a factory line. It’s no longer acting alone,
it’s collaborating.


Once upon a time, the MCU was the loner on a board, running the show for
one simple task: spin this motor, read that sensor, toggle that LED.
Straightforward, self-contained, dependable.


But for that to work, all those little controllers need to talk to each
other quickly and without tripping over the physical limitations of power
delivery, synchronization, or signal integrity.


Speed Isn’t Just in the Silicon

We often talk about performance in terms of megahertz or MIPS, but for
microcontrollers, data movement is becoming the real benchmark.

Think about it: it doesn’t matter how smart your MCU is if it’s constantly
waiting on data to arrive, or can’t synchronize with its neighbors. In
distributed designs (from robotics to smart infrastructure), speed isn’t
just about computation, it’s about coordination.


That’s where innovations in synchronization, high-speed data transfer, and
power management step in. Engineers are finding clever ways to push more
data through existing hardware pipelines, to keep multiple microcontrollers
operating in lockstep. The irony? The fastest systems in the world depend
on slower chips that know how to talk efficiently.


Smart Power, Smarter Control

And then there’s power. The more intelligent and distributed our systems
get, the more complex their power topologies become. That’s why modern
designs rely heavily on smart power switches, which do more than just turn
things on and off. They monitor current, provide diagnostics, and
communicate directly with the MCU to optimize distribution in real time.


It’s no longer just about protecting against shorts or overloads. It’s
about letting each microcontroller act as a power manager, keeping its
local zone healthy, efficient, and responsive.


The Post-MCU World (That Still Runs on MCUs)

The irony of our so-called “post-MCU” era is that we’ve never depended on
microcontrollers more. They’re everywhere: hidden inside EVs, test systems,
industrial robots, even the devices that program other devices. But they’re
no longer defined by what’s inside them. Their value comes from how they
connect, how they communicate, and how gracefully they cooperate.


The frontier of embedded design isn’t about squeezing more horsepower into
a single chip, it’s about designing the circulatory system that connects
thousands of them.


The Future Lies Between the Lines

As embedded systems grow more distributed, the measure of a
microcontroller’s worth is shifting from processing to participation. The
brilliance now lies in orchestration: how data, power, and timing converge
without friction.


It’s no longer enough for a chip to be fast; it must be fluent. The
engineers who master those invisible interfaces (the arteries of data) will
define the future of microcontrollers and the future of every system they
touch.


Want to read more? Reach out to the Product Editor
<product-editor at circuitcellar.com>


Media Kit <https://circuitcellar.com/mediakit/>
Editorial Calendar <https://circuitcellar.com/editorial-calendar/>
About the magazine <https://circuitcellar.com/magazine/>

Circuit Cellar | circuitcellar.com <https://www.circuitcellar.com/>

KCK Media Corp. | PO Box 417 | Chase City, VA 23924 US




-- 
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*Although kindness is rarely a job, no matter what you do it's always an
option.*
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From rob.mackie at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 22:58:21 2025
From: rob.mackie at gmail.com (Robert Mackie)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:58:21 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] TFI - Looking for input
Message-ID: 
 <CAAQbUT+g03BcmO8B_6iKhUVhtc6DhBpSe1aYbZ12LFe4Wx8jQA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

We, at the Forge, are submitting a grant proposal "letter of intent" this
week. The bulk of it is figured out. However, we'd love to get some final
info to help us tune it.

Here's a link to a survey - it would help to have your input and
impressions about AI use in our community ASAP - LOI goes in on Friday.

https://forms.gle/e5CNX8ohLFoYuvUR7

Feel free to forward this on to friends and family. No need for it to go to
tech people. We want a broad set of responses, including tech people.

Thanks,

Rob.
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 07:34:31 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 08:34:31 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] "HAM RADIO CRACKDOWN: The Ban No One Saw Coming"
Message-ID: 
 <CALOtY4OvY+F=NenrD3D29CD9uA34ctAB8E6FTVqYuUXEAnJVLA@mail.gmail.com>

https://youtu.be/rL69FctLI6s?si=4JvmGhO9ITEPD5b6

--
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*”**Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently.” -- Henry
Ford*
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From petesoper at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 08:44:53 2025
From: petesoper at gmail.com (Pete Soper)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 09:44:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriEmbed] "HAM RADIO CRACKDOWN: The Ban No One Saw Coming"
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
 <CALOtY4OvY+F=NenrD3D29CD9uA34ctAB8E6FTVqYuUXEAnJVLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fdf01fda-9b80-4baf-98a8-cc04c50681b5@gmail.com>

TL;DR Radio amateurs: relax.
A FCC vote next week on the 28th may ban a range of Chinese electronics items deemed a security threat because they can potentially be controlled to carry out surveillance, denial of service, data exfiltration or other naughty stuff.
One brand, Hytera makes handhelds for amateurs and there may be others.
Pete (AD4L)
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From pete at soper.us  Thu Oct 23 08:58:20 2025
From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 09:58:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriEmbed] "Power over skin" via RF ACM paper
Message-ID: <8e1e3d71-6226-4e69-9684-97100aaaf51b@soper.us>

TL;DR RF around 40Mhz is efficiently conducted by human skin and can power wearable. Think POE but with powered nodes converting conducted RF to DC.

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3654777.3676394

Pete
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 10:30:24 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 11:30:24 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] "Power over skin" via RF ACM paper
In-Reply-To: <8e1e3d71-6226-4e69-9684-97100aaaf51b@soper.us>
References: <8e1e3d71-6226-4e69-9684-97100aaaf51b@soper.us>
Message-ID: 
 <CALOtY4MhG6MokhcDf_JNGDOOWvm9sBbAMasDvBkYT7akVHW6KA@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like a medical devices application in the ....   oh wait, there are
some ( 😜 Apple watch, etc)

--
Scott G. Hall
Raleigh, NC, USA
scottghall1 at gmail.com
*”**Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently.” -- Henry
Ford*

On Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 9:58 AM Pete Soper via TriEmbed <triembed at triembed.org>
wrote:

> TL;DR RF around 40Mhz is efficiently conducted by human skin and can power
> wearable. Think POE but with powered nodes converting conducted RF to DC.
>
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3654777.3676394
>
> Pete
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From scottghall1 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 09:22:55 2025
From: scottghall1 at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 10:22:55 -0400
Subject: [TriEmbed] Fwd: [STM32 Summit] Keynote and tech dives: power your
 innovation on
 Nov 18-20
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References: <1058338205.1753584.1761757286271@nld1mktmail-batch1d.marketo.org>
Message-ID: 
 <CALOtY4MkfXB1t25y_pcsf=DBwbyn7dkAFrgB=wgKhaf8s=XLgw@mail.gmail.com>

There is some interesting information from ST in these upcoming seminars,
so if you haven’t seen this it might be worth taking some time out to
attend.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: STMicroelectronics <st at event.st.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 1:04 PM

Join us for the next edition of the STM32 Summit




View in browser
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*Invitation*


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STM32 Summit | Global online event

Keynote and tech dives
November 18-20, 2025




* Hi Scott*

Join us for the next edition of the STM32 Summit, the must-attend online
event for anyone interested in cutting-edge STM32 technology and innovation.

*► Get ready for the keynote, available starting early morning on 18
November on LinkedIn and YouTube. Be among the first to discover: *

   - the next-generation of high-performance MCUs
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*► Continue your learning journey. Register for three tech dive sessions
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   1. Discover next-gen high-performance STM32 MCUs built on 18 nm process
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   ST smart sensors and STM32


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