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RARSfest, the largest all-indoor hamfest on the East Coast, invites all interested persons to submit proposals for presentations to be delivered in person on April 4, 2026, in Raleigh, North Carolina. Speakers will have either 50 minutes or 80 minutes for their presentations. Presentations with live demonstrations will be given preference for the 80-minute slots. We will consider any topic relevant to amateur radio, but here are some suggestions to get you thinking: ● Emerging Digital Modes ● Antennas & Propagation ● HF Operating and DX-ing ● Contesting ● “How To” Anything Related to Amateur Radio ● Emergency Communications ● Ham Radio on a Budget ● HOA-Friendly Antenna Solutions ● Amateur Radio History ● Satellite and Space Communications ● Earth-Moon-Earth (“Moon Bounce”) ● VHF, UHF, and Microwave ● QRP ● Homebrewing ● Refurbishing Old Gear ● Go-Kit Building ● Mobile and Portable Operation ● Dealing with RF Noisy Environments ● Operating Outdoors, Parks on the Air, Summits on the Air ● Software Defined Radios ● Using Social Media to Promote Amateur Radio ● Engaging Youth in Amateur Radio ● What Your Amateur Radio Club Does Really Well or that No Other Club Does We'd like to encourage you to submit multiple proposals for consideration! 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Hacker News member SimianSci writes: "A missing piece of the puzzle that i feel is ommitted in Adafruits posting, is that the changes only affect the Arduino Cloud Services, which provide various github-like services for the arduino ecosystem. Looking over the changes with this in mind, it seems a lawyer just applied the same standard SaaS legal language to what is effectively a SaaS offering, pretty normal in most cases. None of these changes will affect the Arduino open-source hardware project. [EDIT] - confirmed: https://www.arduino.cc/en/privacy-policy/ all the legal language applies to the website, online services, forums, etc." Also the Arduino IDE and runtime code still has flavors of GPL licensing. Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the last ~6 months AI has gotten really good at firmware/software development. I had AI write an entire web app that monitors remote servers data logs and alerts me on failures, I did not write or edit a single line of code. Around 80%-90% of code I develop is AI based now (even embedded), as such I no longer care about the programming language, APIs, etc. For example, I now write chip drivers by feeding datasheet to AI where it writes the driver for me, and will not go back to doing it manually ever again. Needed FATFS and SD card driver, just told AI to add to project and include test cases to verify it worked. Which it did, and worked on the first try, of course this was Zephyr based project so not a huge lift, but it worked. Even Zephyr device trees are insignificant to AI, I don't have to figure out convoluted syntax or setup, I just tell AI what I want. Even had AI write python test cases to run on desktop which verify that Bluetooth worked correctly. The point is that when you can ask AI to setup a development container and IDE for your embedded project, then write code and test cases, so there is little need for Arduino. I should mention that I was debating on learning Rust for embedded development last year, I choose not to. Specifically, AI is at the point that the programming language is irrelevant. That is AI will be able to translate code from one language to another with little effort. Also it will be able to verify that C/C++ is just as safe as Rust code. As such embedded development will be moving to a job of project management, where you are managing the project requirements, testing and tasking AI with writing code. Even on the webserver project AI was having a hard time with javascript component, kept having lots of syntax mistakes. So I told it to write a lint tool to verify its results. So it wrote a javascript lint tool and would run it and fix its own mistakes. Basically AI today is as good as college level intern. That is it makes some dumb mistakes but can be highly productive with the correct "management". I see AI technology is much like computers were in the 80s that is everyone could see how they would be use and the advantages of having one on everyone's desk. It will redefine the job market much like computers changed the typing pools at large companies. That is there will be a shift in skills you need for a job towards AI. The point is if you are worried about Arudino, instead take some time and try the latest AI using copilot and VSCode, you might find like me that Arudino is insignificant, like a typewriter. Trampas On Sat, Nov 22, 2025 at 1:13 AM Dwight Morgan via TriEmbed < triembed at triembed.org> wrote: > The enshittification of Arduino begins? Qualcomm starts clamping down > @itsfoss2 > > https://share.google/03WWYzZ9EJkguCpF6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list > > To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org > List info: http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org > TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org > To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto: > unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe > Searchable email archive available at > https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwet at mindspring.com Sat Nov 22 10:19:58 2025 From: jwet at mindspring.com (John Wettroth) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2025 11:19:58 -0500 Subject: [TriEmbed] The enshittification of Arduino begins? Qualcomm starts clamping down @itsfoss2 In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <000001dc5bcb$da285fc0$8e791f40$@mindspring.com> Your use of AI is fascinating. I very seldom come to meetings since Covid when I got out of the habit but I would love to hear a talk on this topic. I’ve played with AI for writing toy apps, mostly web apps that fetch and organize data- pretty basic. I’m an analog EE and I’m comfortable with assembly and C on small uC’s. My main use of a micro is to tickle mixed signal hardware to enable mostly analog based instruments. I guess Arduino has run its course. What was really special about it was that it democratized and lowered the bar for fooling with microcontrollers. Before Arduino, you would use manufacturer provided tools or poorly documented GNU stuff, which is really at the core of Arduino today. It integrates the compiler and hides a lot of complexity like linking, make files and libraries. I never trusted Arduino code for any real use case, it was good for hacking together an interface to new hardware etc. The main problem that I had with it was that you could include some libraries and build something but it was very brittle, there weren’t any standards for how resources were shared and once you got to something workable, you’d have these intractable bugs that would force to get into the libraries and rewrite them to structure them and integrate them together. The biggest project that I ever did was a software defined Ham radio using a Teensy with a good audio/dsp library by Paul Stoffgen. The result was pretty amazing and not something I could have done from the ground up. It was also pretty rickety and I never fully understood what all the code was doing. I got it to the perf board stage but never really wrapped it up and packaged it up. Good prototyping tool that won’t help you with making something robust. I was really surprised to see Qualcomm acquire Arduino and am amazed by what they are rumored to have paid (allegedly around $250M). I knew that they would change things and you can see this creeping enshitification as you call it already. I guess all good things must come to an end. It was fun while it lasted. Take care all and Happy Thanksgiving. Regards, John M. Wettroth E: jwet at mindspring.com M: (919) 349-9875 H: (984) 329-5420 From: TriEmbed On Behalf Of Trampas Stern via TriEmbed Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2025 8:47 AM To: Triangle Embedded Computing Discussion Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] The enshittification of Arduino begins? Qualcomm starts clamping down @itsfoss2 In my personal opinion Arudino has been dying a slow death for years, mainly from then number of bugs in their code and libraries. However it is really falling fast now because AI will be taking over that market area. In the last ~6 months AI has gotten really good at firmware/software development. I had AI write an entire web app that monitors remote servers data logs and alerts me on failures, I did not write or edit a single line of code. Around 80%-90% of code I develop is AI based now (even embedded), as such I no longer care about the programming language, APIs, etc. For example, I now write chip drivers by feeding datasheet to AI where it writes the driver for me, and will not go back to doing it manually ever again. Needed FATFS and SD card driver, just told AI to add to project and include test cases to verify it worked. Which it did, and worked on the first try, of course this was Zephyr based project so not a huge lift, but it worked. Even Zephyr device trees are insignificant to AI, I don't have to figure out convoluted syntax or setup, I just tell AI what I want. Even had AI write python test cases to run on desktop which verify that Bluetooth worked correctly. The point is that when you can ask AI to setup a development container and IDE for your embedded project, then write code and test cases, so there is little need for Arduino. I should mention that I was debating on learning Rust for embedded development last year, I choose not to. Specifically, AI is at the point that the programming language is irrelevant. That is AI will be able to translate code from one language to another with little effort. Also it will be able to verify that C/C++ is just as safe as Rust code. As such embedded development will be moving to a job of project management, where you are managing the project requirements, testing and tasking AI with writing code. Even on the webserver project AI was having a hard time with javascript component, kept having lots of syntax mistakes. So I told it to write a lint tool to verify its results. So it wrote a javascript lint tool and would run it and fix its own mistakes. Basically AI today is as good as college level intern. That is it makes some dumb mistakes but can be highly productive with the correct "management". I see AI technology is much like computers were in the 80s that is everyone could see how they would be use and the advantages of having one on everyone's desk. It will redefine the job market much like computers changed the typing pools at large companies. That is there will be a shift in skills you need for a job towards AI. The point is if you are worried about Arudino, instead take some time and try the latest AI using copilot and VSCode, you might find like me that Arudino is insignificant, like a typewriter. Trampas On Sat, Nov 22, 2025 at 1:13 AM Dwight Morgan via TriEmbed > wrote: The enshittification of Arduino begins? 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Message-ID: I think I remember you are doing this for work, right? In which context maybe a quick end result is worth more than personal enjoyment of the process and personal skill development? Do you find the process enjoyable? Most people don't think of being a project manager as a fulfilling activity worthy of hobby time. To me the beauty of Arduino and other libraries is that they give you the personal satisfaction of figuring out how to do what you want. Granted a library is usually doing hard work that you don't understand. But there is a consistent abstraction layer and you can gain expertise with using it. In really weird situations you can even dig into the open-source library code for the details. (I too have used Paul's Teensy Audio library and on a few occasions had to dig into the code. It was also well beyond my ability to write, but I was able to understand it well enough to figure out my problem.) I think I mentioned my rowing machine project on one of the meetings. I could easily buy a new computer for it. Or I could use a full-featured open-source rowing-machine project. I find it much more satisfying to make my own "from scratch" (though using basic libraries to do a lot of heavy-lifting) even if it is feature-poor compared to the other options. If I had to churn one out for work I would make a completely different calculation about that. To me GenAI is the ultimate enshittification of the entire hobby tech industry. Want to debug your AI-generated code? Have to pay a big tech company for more GenAI tokens to analyze it for you, because you don't (and possibly can't) understand how it works. We don't currently pay the real cost either, since everything is subsidized by investment dollars to generate more growth. It will be interesting to see if the cost comes down enough to offset the necessary end of that subsidy. When I was a kid, I could make something on the same order of magnitude (in functionality) as the commercially-available software, writing every line of code. By the time my kids came around, that wasn't really possible for PC/console (and later phone) software. However it was still roughly true in the simpler embedded space, with the help of libraries. (Maybe I have simplistic view of this though). With GenAI, I wonder if there is even any point in kids making anything. Just ask the GenAI directly to do the thing you want instead of spending effort in writing software (even with GenAI help) to do it. I have used GenAI, for example to create a logo for my bowling league. My skills were utterly unmatched with the quality I wanted, and it's not a skill I want to spend time learning. I didn't feel any enjoyment in in the process but I was satisfied with the result (after some additional manual tweaks). And I use it when coding at work. But it seems sad to me to have it used everywhere in places where people could instead be training their own internal LLMs by doing things more directly and making and correcting their own mistakes. Interested to know what other people think. On Sat, Nov 22, 2025, 06:47 Trampas Stern via TriEmbed < triembed at triembed.org> wrote: > In my personal opinion Arudino has been dying a slow death for years, > mainly from then number of bugs in their code and libraries. However it is > really falling fast now because AI will be taking over that market area. > > In the last ~6 months AI has gotten really good at firmware/software > development. I had AI write an entire web app that monitors remote servers > data logs and alerts me on failures, I did not write or edit a single line > of code. Around 80%-90% of code I develop is AI based now (even embedded), > as such I no longer care about the programming language, APIs, etc. > > For example, I now write chip drivers by feeding datasheet to AI where it > writes the driver for me, and will not go back to doing it manually ever > again. > Needed FATFS and SD card driver, just told AI to add to project and > include test cases to verify it worked. Which it did, and worked on the > first try, of course this was Zephyr based project so not a huge lift, but > it worked. > Even Zephyr device trees are insignificant to AI, I don't have to figure > out convoluted syntax or setup, I just tell AI what I want. Even had AI > write python test cases to run on desktop which verify that Bluetooth > worked correctly. > > The point is that when you can ask AI to setup a development container and > IDE for your embedded project, then write code and test cases, so there is > little need for Arduino. > > I should mention that I was debating on learning Rust for embedded > development last year, I choose not to. Specifically, AI is at the point > that the programming language is irrelevant. That is AI will be able to > translate code from one language to another with little effort. Also it > will be able to verify that C/C++ is just as safe as Rust code. As such > embedded development will be moving to a job of project management, where > you are managing the project requirements, testing and tasking AI with > writing code. > > Even on the webserver project AI was having a hard time with javascript > component, kept having lots of syntax mistakes. So I told it to write a > lint tool to verify its results. So it wrote a javascript lint tool and > would run it and fix its own mistakes. Basically AI today is as good as > college level intern. That is it makes some dumb mistakes but can be > highly productive with the correct "management". > > I see AI technology is much like computers were in the 80s that is > everyone could see how they would be use and the advantages of having one > on everyone's desk. It will redefine the job market much like computers > changed the typing pools at large companies. That is there will be a shift > in skills you need for a job towards AI. > > The point is if you are worried about Arudino, instead take some time and > try the latest AI using copilot and VSCode, you might find like me that > Arudino is insignificant, like a typewriter. > > Trampas > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2025 at 1:13 AM Dwight Morgan via TriEmbed < > triembed at triembed.org> wrote: > >> The enshittification of Arduino begins? 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URL: From jvaughters04 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 24 08:46:23 2025 From: jvaughters04 at yahoo.com (John Vaughters) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 14:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TriEmbed] The enshittification of Arduino begins? Qualcomm starts clamping down @itsfoss2 In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <626877812.515654.1763995583135@mail.yahoo.com> Steve, 100% Agree. AI writes the code and I have yet to find much limitation. I do clean up the code and make changes as needed, but laying out the concept is the key. Knowing what is possible and providing the ideas by understanding conceptual Engineering/Science and computing technology is where the work will be in the future. AI is lowering the skill bar and ideas will become more important. The future is in solution building and coding will be ancillary concern. I am already using it this way and my coding productivity has gone through the roof. Your description is one I have seen and are living as well. Despite people being concerned for jobs, history has shown these jumps in technology exponentially increase jobs. The jobs just won't be the same as before. As I recently heard, when you reduce the cost of a product, people buy more. When clothes started being made in automated looms, people bought more clothes because it was cheaper. Increased productivity always brings abundance. Thanks, John Vaughters On Saturday, November 22, 2025 at 08:47:54 AM EST, Trampas Stern via TriEmbed wrote: In my personal opinion Arudino has been dying a slow death for years, mainly from then number of bugs in their code and libraries. However it is really falling fast now because AI will be taking over that market area. In the last ~6 months AI has gotten really good at firmware/software development. I had AI write an entire web app that monitors remote servers data logs and alerts me on failures, I did not write or edit a single line of code. Around 80%-90% of code I develop is AI based now (even embedded), as such I no longer care about the programming language, APIs, etc. For example, I now write chip drivers by feeding datasheet to AI where it writes the driver for me, and will not go back to doing it manually ever again. Needed FATFS and SD card driver, just told AI to add to project and include test cases to verify it worked. Which it did, and worked on the first try, of course this was Zephyr based project so not a huge lift, but it worked. Even Zephyr device trees are insignificant to AI, I don't have to figure out convoluted syntax or setup, I just tell AI what I want. Even had AI write python test cases to run on desktop which verify that Bluetooth worked correctly. The point is that when you can ask AI to setup a development container and IDE for your embedded project, then write code and test cases, so there is little need for Arduino. I should mention that I was debating on learning Rust for embedded development last year, I choose not to. Specifically, AI is at the point that the programming language is irrelevant. That is AI will be able to translate code from one language to another with little effort. Also it will be able to verify that C/C++ is just as safe as Rust code. As such embedded development will be moving to a job of project management, where you are managing the project requirements, testing and tasking AI with writing code. Even on the webserver project AI was having a hard time with javascript component, kept having lots of syntax mistakes. So I told it to write a lint tool to verify its results. So it wrote a javascript lint tool and would run it and fix its own mistakes. Basically AI today is as good as college level intern. That is it makes some dumb mistakes but can be highly productive with the correct "management". I see AI technology is much like computers were in the 80s that is everyone could see how they would be use and the advantages of having one on everyone's desk. It will redefine the job market much like computers changed the typing pools at large companies. That is there will be a shift in skills you need for a job towards AI. The point is if you are worried about Arudino, instead take some time and try the latest AI using copilot and VSCode, you might find like me that Arudino is insignificant, like a typewriter. Trampas On Sat, Nov 22, 2025 at 1:13 AM Dwight Morgan via TriEmbed wrote: > The enshittification of Arduino begins? 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