From pete at soper.us Thu Aug 8 12:08:38 2024 From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TriEmbed] New Raspberry Pi chip: RP2350 Message-ID: <0a10b4bf-fc08-4688-9f4f-e80aaf889789@soper.us> https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/rp2350/ Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikelisanke at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 12:13:17 2024 From: mikelisanke at gmail.com (Mike Lisanke) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:13:17 -0400 Subject: [TriEmbed] New Raspberry Pi chip: RP2350 In-Reply-To: <0a10b4bf-fc08-4688-9f4f-e80aaf889789@soper.us> References: <0a10b4bf-fc08-4688-9f4f-e80aaf889789@soper.us> Message-ID: Any idea Why they made the RISC-V cores Selectable from sw to switch with the ARM cores? Why not enable both? Conflicts? It's very interesting that an Open Source core now has potential to create RPi products. On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 1:09?PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed < triembed at triembed.org> wrote: > https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/rp2350/ > > Pete > _______________________________________________ > Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list > > To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org > List info: http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org > TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org > To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto: > unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe > Searchable email archive available at > https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/ > > -- Best regards, Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pete at soper.us Thu Aug 8 12:24:31 2024 From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TriEmbed] New Raspberry Pi chip: RP2350 In-Reply-To: References: <0a10b4bf-fc08-4688-9f4f-e80aaf889789@soper.us> Message-ID: <1560457e-7536-464c-972c-f76ecca93bb5@soper.us> (this time to all, with update) I just found out that running one m33f core and one RISCV core is an option. Eben Upton: "They're selectable at boot time: Each port into the bus fabric can be connected either to an M33 or a Hazard3 via a mux. You can even, if you're feeling obtuse, run with one of each." Source: https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/08/pi_pico_2_risc_v/ Pete Aug 8, 2024 1:13:58 PM Mike Lisanke : > Any idea Why they made the ?RISC-V cores Selectable from sw to switch with the ARM cores? Why not enable both? Conflicts? > It's very interesting that an Open Source core now has potential to create RPi products.? > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 1:09?PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed wrote: >> https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/rp2350/ >> >> Pete >> _______________________________________________ >> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list >> >> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org >> List info: http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org >> TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org >> To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto:unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe >> Searchable email archive available at https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/ >> > > > -- > Best regards,? Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trampas at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 12:24:55 2024 From: trampas at gmail.com (Trampas Stern) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:24:55 -0400 Subject: [TriEmbed] New Raspberry Pi chip: RP2350 In-Reply-To: References: <0a10b4bf-fc08-4688-9f4f-e80aaf889789@soper.us> Message-ID: As you pointed out it is most likely conflicts with the memory bus or thermal issues. On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 1:14?PM Mike Lisanke via TriEmbed < triembed at triembed.org> wrote: > Any idea Why they made the RISC-V cores Selectable from sw to switch with > the ARM cores? Why not enable both? Conflicts? > It's very interesting that an Open Source core now has potential to create > RPi products. > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 1:09?PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed < > triembed at triembed.org> wrote: > >> https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/rp2350/ >> >> Pete >> _______________________________________________ >> Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list >> >> To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org >> List info: >> http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org >> TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org >> To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto: >> unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe >> Searchable email archive available at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/ >> >> > > -- > Best regards, Mike > _______________________________________________ > Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list > > To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org > List info: http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org > TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org > To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto: > unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe > Searchable email archive available at > https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Conflicts? > It's very interesting that an Open Source core now has potential to create RPi products. > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 1:09?PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed wrote: >> >> https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/rp2350/ >> >> Pete I've always liked RISC. You made me switch to Fry mode and preorder it through sparkfun, which led to 4 minutes of captcha. Nobody accused me of being human, but WTF? From pete at soper.us Thu Aug 8 18:45:42 2024 From: pete at soper.us (Pete Soper) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 19:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TriEmbed] RP2350 product catalog Message-ID: <7e46a779-2e46-4415-b377-173529a86371@soper.us> https://www.raspberrypi.com/for-industry/powered-by/product-catalogue/?category=RP2350 Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have you mounted said sd card into another computer to see if there was an error message? From dwight.w.morgan at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 22:50:11 2024 From: dwight.w.morgan at gmail.com (Dwight Morgan) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:50:11 -0400 Subject: [TriEmbed] Old Pi(s) with USB WiFi stopped working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89BBD74A-9344-449E-A212-A5AC5E8ECABE@gmail.com> I?ll try both of those. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2024, at 10:00?PM, Mauricio Tavares via TriEmbed wrote: > > ?On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 6:17?PM Carl Nobile via TriEmbed > wrote: >> >> Dwight, >> >> I'm assuming you are trying to connect over WiFi, try connecting by plugging it into a J45 port (normal ethernet) then update drivers etc. >> Also which model of RPis do you have? >> >> ~Carl >> >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:01?PM Dwight Morgan via TriEmbed wrote: >>> >>> I just noticed my old pi with USB WiFi I had running for years and another spare not working - I tried both but don't seem to be connecting when I try to see them on my router "attached devices" or ssh in with a pi 4. >>> Hoping for helpful hint before I dig to China. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dwight > > In addition to what Carl said, chances are these RPi have sd > cards, where the log files are written to (unless you set them to sent > somewhere else). Have you mounted said sd card into another computer > to see if there was an error message? > > _______________________________________________ > Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list > > To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org > List info: http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org > TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org > To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto:unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe > Searchable email archive available at https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/ > From paulmacdnc at att.net Sat Aug 17 19:11:50 2024 From: paulmacdnc at att.net (The MacDougals) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 20:11:50 -0400 Subject: [TriEmbed] Introduction to Machining class References: <002e01daf103$39f5b1d0$ade11570$.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <002e01daf103$39f5b1d0$ade11570$@att.net> I will be teaching MEC-3010F Introduction to Machining, a Continuing Education course, at Durham Tech this fall on Tuesday evenings from 6pm to 9pm starting on September 3. 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That was a fun little project. > > Regards, > Brad Fayette > Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the earth. > Sent from my MEK6800D1. > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > On Wednesday, August 21st, 2024 at 5:57 PM, Mike Lisanke via TriEmbed < > triembed at triembed.org> wrote: > > > https://www.electronicdesign.com/blogs/nonlinearities/article/55134043/electronic-design-sothe-z80-is-rising-from-the-deadwith-an-on-chip-dac > > > -- Best regards, Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From htruong at tnhh.net Thu Aug 22 13:06:13 2024 From: htruong at tnhh.net (Huan Truong) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:06:13 -0700 Subject: [TriEmbed] Old Pi(s) with USB WiFi stopped working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The prime suspect here is the Pi's USB port or hub chip is not seeing the dongles since both of your devices failed to work. My go-to method to see if the USB port is working is to watch dmesg: $ sudo dmesg -w Then plug whatever you need to observe in the port. If you see nothing, there goes your connection not working for whatever reason. If you have openwrt, you could watch the syslog on openwrt to see if the device is connecting to your router: # logread -f I found the "follow" or "watch" option of any logging facility to be extremely useful as a first-line defense mechanism to debug anything not showing up. On Aug 16 2024, at 1:00 pm, Dwight Morgan via TriEmbed wrote: > I just noticed my old pi? with?USB WiFi I had running?for years and > another spare not working -? I tried both but don't seem to be > connecting when I try to see them? on my router? "attached devices" or > ssh in with a pi 4. > Hoping for helpful hint before I dig to China. > > Thanks, > Dwight > _______________________________________________ > > Triangle, NC Embedded Interest Group mailing list > > > To post message: TriEmbed at triembed.org > > List info: http://mail.triembed.org/mailman/listinfo/triembed_triembed.org > > TriEmbed web site: https://TriEmbed.org > > To unsubscribe, click link and send a blank message: mailto:unsubscribe-TriEmbed at bitser.net?subject=unsubscribe > > Searchable email archive available at > https://www.mail-archive.com/triembed at triembed.org/ From jwet at mindspring.com Fri Aug 23 07:53:55 2024 From: jwet at mindspring.com (jwet) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:53:55 -0400 Subject: [TriEmbed] Fwd: [electronics101] Z80 discontinued (announced in April) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's pretty cool.? I guess an 8051 can be implemented in less than 10k gates.? At Maxim, I defined an 8051 with nice 12 bit ADC's.? We acquired Dallas not long after and it kind of got lost.? I can write 8051 assembly in my sleep, quirky but very practical overall for 8 bit apps.John Wettroth919 349-9875jwet at mindspring.com? -------- Original message --------From: Mike Lisanke via TriEmbed Date: 8/21/24 6:11 PM (GMT-05:00) To: brad at bfayette.com Cc: Triangle Embedded Interest Group Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Fwd: [electronics101] Z80 discontinued (announced in April) Very cool! I used 8051s all over IBM in embedded control systems.?It's easy to get them to do 3phase?motor control (and every other form of motion control).?On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 6:08?PM brad at bfayette.com wrote:Me and a college buddy of mine implemented an 8051 in FPGA about 20 years ago.? ?That was a fun little project. Regards,Brad FayetteBlessed?are?the?geeks,?for?they?shall?inherit?the?earth.Sent from my MEK6800D1. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. 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