[TriEmbed] Student robotics and running code aboard the ISS

[Tarun Sharma]

Any word on this? Would love to talk about it during our next meeting.

Best Regards,

Tarun Sharma




On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:19 PM Charles West via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

> It's basically the same as quadrotors, only way easier.  You have all of
> the same tools, you just don't have to worry about falling.
>
> Regarding where it would fly, it would be a relatively small cubby on the
> ISS (with air).  Currently, I am wondering if it would make sense for
> people to do something like a programming camp around it.  You would learn
> to program the drone in simulation using python scripts (or other frontend)
> and at the end of the program you would get to upload your code to the
> drones on the ISS and see how you did (camera view from drone + side cames
> + state estimation).
>
> You could have different challenges, such as docking or maybe 3d soccer
> with multiple drones.
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:41 PM Carl Nobile <carl.nobile at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder how they do it with Ingenuity on Mars?
>> Though I don't think gravity has much to do with an accelerometer.
>> Acceleration is acceleration anywhere. Air density is the bigger issue, but
>> it can't be too low for the astronauts.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:29 PM Jon Wolfe <jonjwolfe at anibit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> accelerometer-based flight stability would be an interesting challenge
>>> in microgravity.
>>>
>>> On June 29, 2021 7:44:59 PM Carl Nobile via TriEmbed <
>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Charly,
>>>>
>>>> Any drone would only need directional and proximity control, but not
>>>> lift.
>>>> So my first question is, where would they actually fly these drones? In
>>>> the ISS itself? They certainly couldn't in space.
>>>>
>>>> ~Carl
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 10:14 PM Charles West via TriEmbed <
>>>> triembed at triembed.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm talking with Nanoracks about putting some free flying drones in a
>>>>> compartment on the ISS.  One of the big uncertainties is whether or not
>>>>> people would be willing to pay for being able to fly something there.
>>>>> There's been some fairly popular free (but restricted access) programs with
>>>>> free flying drones on the ISS (SPHERES, Astrobee) so I am hoping that there
>>>>> would be sufficient interest to at least break even.
>>>>>
>>>>> The latency is fairly high (500-1000 milliseconds), so direct control
>>>>> probably wouldn't be that fun.  That said, I was thinking it might be a fun
>>>>> thing for student coding competitions.  My current idea for pricing is that
>>>>> it would be $50 for a 10 minute slot, with student code running on a
>>>>> virtual machine on the drone.  Users would also have access to a simulation
>>>>> of the environment and get video recording/tracking of the drone as it
>>>>> performed their code.  It would also be possible to rent out multiple
>>>>> drones for a higher rate, if you wanted to do something fancier or get a
>>>>> discount if other drones were able to operate at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Overall, it would be pretty cheap for a "do something cool using code"
>>>>> sort of thing since the cost for a slot is roughly on par with an arduino
>>>>> kit.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I may ask, what do you think?  Would it be popular?  Would you do
>>>>> it?  Any idea how I could get proof one way or the other?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.
>>>>> The drones would have to fly in an opaque compartment, since NASA is
>>>>> really weird about anything taking pictures of astronauts.
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