[TriEmbed] TriEmbed Digest, Vol 74, Issue 14

Mon Jul 29 12:29:22 CDT 2019

All,

I am not a machine learning expert but, this short and *very entertaining*
video shows how it can deliver a solution that would be tough to achieve
elsewhere.

https://youtu.be/1A-Nf3QIJjM

Chip

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Intellectual and technical debt and machine learning
cautionary article (Brian)
2. Re: Intellectual and technical debt and machine learning
cautionary article (John Vaughters)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:59:09 -0400
From: Brian <triembed at undecidedgames.net>
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Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Intellectual and technical debt and machine
learning cautionary article
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On 7/27/19 5:07 PM, Mark Sidell via TriEmbed wrote:
> Favorite pick-up line: You look like a thing and I love you.

Best. Pick-up. Line. EVAR.

I may have to try this one.

-B

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:08:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Vaughters <jvaughters04 at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [TriEmbed] Intellectual and technical debt and machine
learning cautionary article
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What we (Society) call Machine Learning, I call weighted big data with
Artificial Stupidity. Yes the machine is learning, NO it is not
intelligent. Quite the opposite. In fact, it reminds me of the old Sesame
Street game, One of these does not belong with the other. Smart comparisons
based on big data inputs with massive processing. The current Machine
Learning will be useful as a tool, similar to a ratchet wrench is to a car.
It will help us for specific tasks, but not all tasks. Ever try to use a
ratchet wrench as a hammer, right, well it does work, but can give very bad
results. That is experience talking :)?
I've seen at least two articles from people in the industry stating we are
headed in the wrong direction on AI. One software and one hardware. The
software person used the same term I always use, Artificial Stupidity. He
felt that we had to re-think the entire approach, but did not offer one.
The point being he just flat out believed smart weighted comparisons are
not the answer. A tool yes, but it will not lead to intelligence. The
Hardware guy was somehow connected to Intel and believed the heavy
processing was not the answer and instead of high electrical power with
high processing power is not the solution. They were looking at low power
processing with fast small calculations in massive parallel. Think video
card cores. These articles were pie in the sky thoughts, so no idea if they
went anywhere. All this tells me is what I have been saying for a long
time, we have no clue what intelligence is or how to create it. What we
keep doing is taking shots in the dark and extracting a little light to
take new aim with another shot. Each shot provides great amazing tools.
Object Oriented Programming came from one of those shots. I don't know
about you, but that was a pretty amazing concept that lead to incredible
advances in usable software. More tools are coming that will blow our
minds, but it still will not be intelligent.?
Machine Learning is so complex and very unreliable, because when it fails,
it can be quite spectacular. The worse part is the creators have no idea
why it failed, because they cannot evaluate the neural network. This is a
real Frankenstein. Enough knowledge to build it but not able to understand
or control it. The phase we are in right now is to build software to help
evaluate what the neural nets are doing and it is a massive task.?
I have always criticized Elon Musk for being afraid of AI, but I have
backed down on him a bit. Because, if we allow some of this technology to
run our world, the fear is not that it will take over, but it will fail and
fail big. I have no idea why Elon Musk is afraid of AI, but I do now see a
very real issue where people think their software is great and apply it in
situations that can cause massive problems. For instance, imagine AI
implemented in an electric grid. SCARY! Ummmm Weapons decisions. YIKES!
Sadly, I have found out both of these are being looked at, hence my fear
level has raised, but not due to Sky Net domination, Due to Human Stupidity
allowing Artificial Stupidity to be misused.?
2 cents worth a half pence on a good day
John Vaughters
On Monday, July 29, 2019, 10:08:42 AM EDT, Brian via TriEmbed <
triembed at triembed.org> wrote:

On 7/27/19 5:07 PM, Mark Sidell via TriEmbed wrote:
> Favorite pick-up line: You look like a thing and I love you.

Best.? Pick-up.? Line.? EVAR.

I may have to try this one.

-B

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