[TriEmbed] Fwd: RE: oscilloscopes

[Pete Soper]

I just noticed John's msg only went to me. I'm pretty sure he wanted it 
to go to the group (we have to use "reply all" for that).

But I didn't delete the link: we need a fill for that.

-Pete


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Subject: 	RE: [TriEmbed] oscilloscopes
Date: 	Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:36:59 -0500
From: 	John Wettroth
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Thanks Pete, the spelling is correct.  Two notes.

Here is a link to the EEVBLOG thread about Rigol scopes and hacking.  
This is the original thread from 2014 and it gives a map to the 
thousands of other threads that this spawned. A firmware update will 
allow the machine to operate as a 100 MHz scope with all the options.  
I've done it to my machine and there doesn't appear to be any downside.  
BTW the EEVBLOG forum is an excellent place for test equipment 
information.  Dave Jones, the author of the EEVBLOG even does 
comprehensive teardowns and full reviews- strong opinions but funny with 
a strong Aussie accent.

Some notes on Asian manufacturing of USA equipment.  "All" of this low 
end test equipment is designed and manufactured in Asia and about 80% in 
China for last 15 years or so.  The business model is called ODM- 
"original design manufactures".  It became very popular with notebook 
computer manufactures in the 90's.  The big US companies design and 
build their flagship products stateside but farmed out lower end 
business to China (originally Taiwan). The US company approves designs 
and oversees production and quality but the equipment is all Chinese.  
In some cases, you can see absolute clones of US equipment under Chinese 
brand names.  A lot of the far eastern manufacturers like Rigol and 
Siglent started this way.  The trend in the last few years has been to 
create China based Joint Ventures with US Companies.  Keysight's JV is 
called "Chengdu Instruments" in Sichuan province.   Tektronix and others 
have JV's in china too. These joint ventures give the US guys more 
design input, access to R&D and security from counterfeiting. In most 
cases today, all production is done in China rather than just low end.  
US employees rotate through these Chinese JV's and train the locals.  
This model has become common in many industries like automotive (Delco, 
etc)  Most of the more established Chinese vendors like Rigol are up to 
the same quality levels as equivalent equipment offered by Tek and 
Keysight, etc that is made in China.

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